Rupp Interview after 10k - LetsRun asked him about Verne Gambetta and 'innovation vs. cheating'

dave W - STFU. you have responded far too many times - we get your message, now please go away. Is Rojo the best journalist in the world? Defininitely NOT. But it is not YOUR place to determine what is appropriate for anyone else but you, quit speaking for the rest of us.

The whole point is about pushing the envelope when it comes to ergogenic (and other types not actually PED's) aids. Could masks be artifical yet reasonable aids? Yes and No. Are Altitude tents? Yes and No. Frankly these are fair quastions that athletes(not their coaches or agents) need to answer so that they understand perception. If Galen gets caught for something (I personally don't believe he is liable for anything) it is his butt, not that of AlSal or Simms, that takes the fall. The world of "gray area" help is expanding in terms of PED's - meaning Performance enhancing DEVICES. Many are legitimate, but where is the dividing line.

DaveW wrote:

You still do not get it. The question was not appropriate in any context a few moments after a 10k American record. Sorry that you continue to be a LR apologist.

Are you braindead? I pretty much said Rojo's question was pathetic...you say that makes me a Letsrun "apologist"??? You clearly don't know what Letsrun even is.

And I was arguingimg anything to do with the timing, that's a completely different issue. The question itself was as close to as bad a question anyone could ask the way it was asked. It was painful to even listen to as it sounded so dumb and misrepresented the article big time since the only context Rupp had was the mask stuff.

Sweetheart, I am not speaking for anyone else but myself. STFU ... are you in the third grade?

What does anything that you just said have anything to do with the inappropriateness of a so called "journalist" asking some poorly thought out question just moments after an historic 10k American record?

I'm sorry Bubbalooey, I'm going to have to give you a STFU "Sorry" "The" "Facts" "Undermine" YOU.

DaveW wrote:

Really ... this sport is in a crisis because of doping when running is becoming more popular with women and men HS runners than in the past two decades at least based on their times? "News Alert" Rojo to have a special on HS doping ... he once talked to a HS coach who once talked to a HS runner who claimed that all HS runners faster than him are doping. News at Eleven.

I'm not sure what crisis you are referring to other than the one that Rojo has created in his own mind. Yes, high performance athletics are always pushing the borders and learning new training methods and techniques. Maybe even some cross the line.

I'll tell you what, if I was Galen shortly after my 10k American record, I would have crossed the line with Rojo.

Here are some very recebt examples of crisis:

The Adidas meet in NYC can't quite sell out a small 5,000 seat stadium in a city of 8 million people. I've been there twice - the meet has the atmosphere of a funeral except when the Jamaicans cheer on their 100m and 200m people. Without the Jamaicans the stadium would be half empty.

Millrose games had to leave madison square garden

The USA sprint team has been caught again and again cheating - they are beyond embarrassing and wrecking the credibility of all USA pro runners.

USATF itself has lost credibility - they award the jesse owens award to a doper (merritt), they make two dopers national team coaches (cherry and mitchell)...

USATF is roughly half funded by a single company. I am not anti-nike, but that is not a healthy tenable situation

The whole DQ crisis revealed a lack of professionalism and lack of responsiveness in the organization.

the USA does not even have a stadium that could be used for a world championship meet

How much more do you need to call this thing a crisis? sure, grass roots marathoning and hs running are thriving. But that's not USATF's doing. Pro track is their responsibilty and pro track keeps losing people.

on a personal note - I try to be optimistic and purposefully naive about running. But even I have stopped watching any event 400 meters and below because I can't suspend disbelief any more in sprinting. One or two distance bans...and I am probably gone for good.

And I am an example of the rich guy who USATF and NBC needs to be watching. Lord knows how many more of guys like me are walking away from the pro side of the sport.

Have you talked to the CEO of Oiselle ... I'm sure if she sells enough sports bras she will be able to fill Millrose, so it is good to know that we will have that taken care of in a few years.

Or you could talk to a few other shoe, watch, apparel companies to see what they can do.

People ran on cinder track in my day. Hayward field seems to fill stadiums more than most.

Didn't they just run a DL meet at Hayward field. Could that be used for a world championship meet. Hell they may need to move the Rio Olympics to Hayward field.

The fact that USATF is roughly half funded by a single company is a travesty and I would not buy shoes, watches or sports bras from any company that did not provide substantial funding to the USTAF.

Who was the major contributor to USA track and field in 1968 and how much did they provide in 2014 dollars .... I really don't know, do you have the data.

Today, we have the greatest pro track runners, college runners and HS runners in the last few decades. So that seems to be going pretty well.

DQ "Crisis", you have to be kidding me. One was a clear DQ made into a crisis, the other was a big mistake that should have been cleared up right away, but a "crisis" I don't think so.

So If you are a rich guy, I hope you are subscribing to all of the sites that provide video coverage and content, because that will help.

Did you have synthetic tracks, running message boards, running video live coverage web sites, live results, etc..etc. when you weren't a rich guy?

DaveW wrote:

Hell they may need to move the Rio Olympics to Hayward field.

Yes, swimming, rhythmic gymnastics, yachting, ping pong, and more, all in Hayward Field. That will surely work.

No but we could distribute all those other insignificant sports like ping pong to California, yachting to Nebraska and rhythmic gymnastics to Alaska. What ... did you really think I was serious? Jesus.

Oh, every one of your posts have been a joke! HarHar. Thank you for clarify.

I don't know are you autistic and cannot detect sarcasm? Sorry to say that but really, you want to extend this discussion?

You are not the sharpest tool in the forest, are you?

[quote]DaveW wrote:

Have you talked to the CEO of Oiselle

As a matter of fact I have, she seemed like a nice woman. Pretty sharp.

Or you could talk to a few other shoe, watch, apparel companies to see what they can do.

Good idea, wonder if anyone else has thought of this.

People ran on cinder track in my day. Hayward field seems to fill stadiums more than most.

What's the point here? You want Hayward to have a cinder track? Ventolin v X would have a field day, no pun intended. He could bring out his calculator and compare Kiprop vs. Ryun and then call us idiots and morons and speak to us in jibberish terms using whacky logic.

Didn't they just run a DL meet at Hayward field. Could that be used for a world championship meet. Hell they may need to move the Rio Olympics to Hayward field.

Haywar seats about 15,000 tops, not nearly enough for a WC or Olympics. I guess they could retrofit Autzen stadium.

The fact that USATF is roughly half funded by a single company is a travesty and I would not buy shoes, watches or sports bras from any company that did not provide substantial funding to the USTAF.

What's the connection here? Not making sense.

Who was the major contributor to USA track and field in 1968 and how much did they provide in 2014 dollars .... I really don't know, do you have the data.

Very different world back then. For one it was the AAU. Not as much corporate influence in the 1960s. But it was run like a fiefdom by Avery Brundage.

Today, we have the greatest pro track runners, college runners and HS runners in the last few decades. So that seems to be going pretty well.

Still a lot of issues, success more a result of in spite of the leadership not because of it. Sprinters rife with drugs, Nike bought out USATF and using undue influence. These are not good trends.

DQ "Crisis", you have to be kidding me. One was a clear DQ made into a crisis, the other was a big mistake that should have been cleared up right away, but a "crisis" I don't think so.

It's a crisis to Bumbalough for sure, and it was a pretty blatant example of influence peddling and bullying by Salazar and Nike.

So If you are a rich guy, I hope you are subscribing to all of the sites that provide video coverage and content, because that will help.

Not a rich guy, so this is not relevant.

you have synthetic tracks, running message boards, running video live coverage web sites, live results, etc..etc. when you weren't a rich guy?

These things didn't become common until the 1990s.

Are you AGIP, are you speaking for AGIP or do you just have multiple personalities?

I'm not sure, what type of tools do they have in the forest?

You have the impressive ability in instantly kill posts. Hmmm.....

DaveW wrote:

Honestly, I have no idea what is considered white, grey or black in sports today. But I do know what is considered unethical and I have seen guerrilla tactics applied to smear the Nike image several times in the last few months and I believe a lot of this venom was channeled through LR.

Nah, no doubt you are a schill for nike.

white - that's pretty obvious. No PEDs. Period. Achieve through good training and nutrition etc. Altitude training is white, and so are altitude tents (ruled by IAAF and all to be legal).

gray - not yet banned performance enhancers (e.g., xenon until recently; upping thyroid levels). In the past blood doping would have been a gray area, but it's been banned so it's black. What about gene therapy? Haven't even touched on that one.

black - any substance or action on the banned list, including masking agents

DaveW wrote:

I'm not sure, what type of tools do they have in the forest?

Tools live in the forest, where tools belong. Haha, I get it mate.

DaveW, you are one funny cracker.

Thank goodness you aren't running T&F in this country. Talk about disjointed, confused and ignorant. DaveW asked you some legitimate questions, and you obviously can't read and respond with cogency.

Willing to Give A Break wrote:

Thank goodness you aren't running T&F in this country. Talk about disjointed, confused and ignorant. DaveW asked you some legitimate questions, and you obviously can't read and respond with cogency.

Actually he didn't ask me the questions. Those were to another poster. So brush up on your reading comprehension.