Please tell me you didn't just write the above. Then tell me you will never have children. I'm guessing you are a teenager and know no better but there is a huge difference btw a 17 yo CHILD(by law) and a 36 yo(woman).
Please tell me you didn't just write the above. Then tell me you will never have children. I'm guessing you are a teenager and know no better but there is a huge difference btw a 17 yo CHILD(by law) and a 36 yo(woman).
yeah, the 36yo is old and used up
Continuer of things wrote:
Probably being reported more often than in the past. And numerous studies indicate--contrary to popular belief--the results are just as damaging to teen male students involved with older female teachers as when the genders are reversed.
Usually, it is only damaging to the student when the media (or parents) gets involved. Not the actual relationship itself.
I realize now 23 years later that my potential involvement with that student might have been detrimental to her. The student's mother told me once she had a relationship with her English teacher when she was in school in Yuma. "I even did his laundry!" was her exact quote. Although I did not succumb to the temptation, I hemmed and hawed about it for so long that it certainly gave the girl the impression I wanted to do her. The problem was, as I saw it, the mother was unstable enough to change the game plan and claim I had an inappropriate relationship with the daughter if she felt scorned by me. And believe me, there was no jury in New Mexico that would look at Tammy and then at me and think I didn't have sex with her. I should have reported things immediately when she began flashing her crotch at me but I was just too stunned. Had it been 2011 instead of 1991, she would have likely been sexting me and I would have been reluctant to get her in trouble because when it came to her family, she was the only adult in the room.
My point is no matter how highly trained teachers are and no matter how moral people purport themselves to be, teachers are human. It's no excuse for Bo Reed and it would certainly would not have been an excuse for me. But sometimes there is so much more to the story.
Bleu wrote:
Please tell me you didn't just write the above. Then tell me you will never have children. I'm guessing you are a teenager and know no better but there is a huge difference btw a 17 yo CHILD(by law) and a 36 yo(woman).
17 is not a child by law in most states. Had she been one state over in either direction, this would be a non issue.
Teller of truths wrote:
If she really was as bright as you claim, she would have shunned you for writing a sentence like this. "Pushed hard for her daughter and I"? English teacher? You should have been run out of town for your grammar, not your designs on a school girl.
Obviously, if you cannot contribute anything positive to the conversation, go off on pronoun use, by all means. Too bad your critical thinking skills shut down so abruptly once you stumble across a minor grammatical error. Your life must be extremely frustrating. Have a great day.
"17 is not a child by law in most states. Had she been one state over in either direction, this would be a non issue."[/quote]
Legality aside, any 40+ man - particularly a man in a position of authority - who has sex with a 17 year old girl, is a complete pervert.
How old were you frothy?
You could have waited until she graduated. You can't be doing one of your high school students.
does not matter wrote:
"17 is not a child by law in most states. Had she been one state over in either direction, this would be a non issue."
Legality aside, any 40+ man - particularly a man in a position of authority - who has sex with a 17 year old girl, is a complete pervert.[/quote]
At the age of 53 JD Salinger had a relationship with an 18 year old girl. Yale student. Published author. She dropped out of college to be with him. She was very intelligent.
does not matter wrote:
Legality aside, any 40+ man - particularly a man in a position of authority - who has sex with a 17 year old girl, is a complete pervert.
In addition to homophobia and bigotry towards African Americans, it looks like we can now add something else to the list of Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson’s shortcomings.
Video has surfaced of Robertson giving a speech in 2009 at the Sportsmen’s Ministry in Georgia, where he suggests that men should target 15-16 year-old girls for marriage — because they’re basically over the hill at 20.
“Look, you wait ‘til they get to be twenty years-old and the only picking that’s going to take place is your pocket. You got to marry these girls when they’re about fifteen or sixteen and they’ll pick your ducks.”
and Seinfeld, and the reptard hero strom thurmond, and brigham young + joseph smith, and elvis presley,
does not matter wrote:
Legality aside, any 40+ man - particularly a man in a position of authority - who has sex with a 17 year old girl, is a complete pervert.
I basically agree. I was 34 and divorced. I'm no pervert but it was definitely difficult keeping my shit together. The lesson I received from the experience was sometimes you have to be a jerk with people. Even people you care about.
Actually, I've contributed meaningfully to this conversation more than once. Your story, however, is too cliché and obvious to have even a shred of truth to it. Does it come from your failed romance novel?
frothy wrote:
Obviously, if you cannot contribute anything positive to the conversation, go off on pronoun use, by all means. Too bad your critical thinking skills shut down so abruptly once you stumble across a minor grammatical error. Your life must be extremely frustrating. Have a great day.
slippery slope wrote:
17 is not a child by law in most states. Had she been one state over in either direction, this would be a non issue.
NM is one state over and a coach would be in deep legal sh*t over a relationship with a 17 year old athlete.
Thank you Sloppy Joe for your comments. I personally know Bo and I believe he is basically a good guy, he made a big mistake and I'm sure he regrets it. People make comments without even knowing everything that happened. I agree that what he did was totally wrong and he should never be able to coach high school athletes again, but give him a break everyone. It is a sad thing to happen, but he is just a man. I'm not blaming the girl and this may not be what happened between them, but girls now days are very different than they were years ago. They have become very aggressive and possessive and throw themselves at guys regardless of age. And do you see how they dress? They roll their shorts up in track at high school and leave nothing to the imagination, there is not much more than underwear covered and even underwear is not always covered. I have seen it happen many times. They stalk a guy if they like a guy and the guy doesn't reciprocate the attention or if the guy breaks up with them. There are so many scenarios that could have happened. No one really knows what happened except Bo and the girl. Unless you know ALL of the details, don't make any judgments and I pray I never happens to any of you or your family.
Know Bo wrote:
Thank you Sloppy Joe for your comments. I personally know Bo and I believe he is basically a good guy, he made a big mistake and I'm sure he regrets it. People make comments without even knowing everything that happened. I agree that what he did was totally wrong and he should never be able to coach high school athletes again, but give him a break everyone. It is a sad thing to happen, but he is just a man. I'm not blaming the girl and this may not be what happened between them, but girls now days are very different than they were years ago. They have become very aggressive and possessive and throw themselves at guys regardless of age. And do you see how they dress? They roll their shorts up in track at high school and leave nothing to the imagination, there is not much more than underwear covered and even underwear is not always covered. I have seen it happen many times. They stalk a guy if they like a guy and the guy doesn't reciprocate the attention or if the guy breaks up with them. There are so many scenarios that could have happened. No one really knows what happened except Bo and the girl. Unless you know ALL of the details, don't make any judgments and I pray I never happens to any of you or your family.
"And do you see how they dress?"
Is this some kind of a joke? Who cares how they dress? Irrevelant...
It is very relevant. In a perfect world it would not be relevant but if you do not think any heterosexual male that sees an attractive young girl with barely everything covered is not going to have some reaction then you are wrong. It does NOT make what he did right in any way but please do not feed me this PC BS that is fed to us by the lesbo women and self righteous males (until they get caught). The point is that he should not have acted on those feelings. Sometimes easier said than done.
In the end, he was wrong, he is screwed but please don't paint this as some situation where only a sicko perv would fall for someone under 18. There is way more to this story and to life.
irant wrote:
It is very relevant. In a perfect world it would not be relevant but if you do not think any heterosexual male that sees an attractive young girl with barely everything covered is not going to have some reaction then you are wrong. It does NOT make what he did right in any way but please do not feed me this PC BS that is fed to us by the lesbo women and self righteous males (until they get caught). The point is that he should not have acted on those feelings. Sometimes easier said than done.
In the end, he was wrong, he is screwed but please don't paint this as some situation where only a sicko perv would fall for someone under 18. There is way more to this story and to life.
It doesn't matter if a girl is standing there naked with a huge sign saying "TAKE ME NOW." If you're a coach (hell, if you're any adult), it's your job to say nope.
Bo didn't. He probably thought he could get away with it, but of course he got caught.
It doesn't take a "sicko perv" to fall for someone under 18. It just takes someone with a flawed thought process. And a moron.
To "Bo knows young girls"...How they dress is irrelevant? It is not a joke. Sadly some girls don't wear clothing that covers much. I'm sorry if I offended you. It was a general statement, not personal. I wrote "They roll their shorts up in track at high school and leave nothing to the imagination". I don't want to see their privates displayed? I also do not condone any man or woman having sex with a student, but I do think that the schools need to step up and regulate how the students (both boys and girls) dress while in school.
Thank you irant! Bo should not have acted on his feelings. Only Bo and the girl know what happened between them. It is sad that he has ruined his life. I don't condone him, but I do feel sorry for him.
I don't condone a HS coach having sex with an athlete he coaches, but a 17 year old should be able to consent to sex with whomever she wants.