White people finally have an international sprint champion

True, but I think their main complaint was about teams being left unfilled as well. UKA was very stingy at the London Olympics - some events only having one participant (and sometimes they crashed and burned, with more viable runners left out.. I'm thinking Women's 800m at least).

I don't know why - maybe to save on accommodation space or cash - but if it's a home Olympics, I would say select them and even let them just turn up and compete if need be. If saving cash was a priority, then they should have made the Olympic Stadium with a Premier League future in mind (now the government is paying for it with a hefty re-construction, to give it to West Ham United).

We had one guy miss out on the long jump standard by 1cm, and everyone knows no one has jumped near the WR in 2 decades. In the end, it was a crap shoot, which Rutherford won by doing his best under pressure. UKA is trying to prioritise their cash for the medal winners, which is understandable, but with standards so high we could end up with no competitors or just 1 in a lot of categories on a regular basis.

IGF-1 LR3 use seeing it all over this champianship .

that 60m final all likely to haved benefited from it,

the consistency of all sprinters sticks out .

maybe only american in 2nd could be natural

chinese guy definitely on it like peimeng

and jamicans are well jamicans .

that rana reider squad in loughborough all on it

from dwain who has been on it since came back from training

in jamica in 2008 with mills and BOLT .

to porter and triple jumper .

nice little group very similar to group of athletes

benefitting in france that easily stick out .

aston eaton speed definitely igf mediated.

peaked on igf at training course before landed in poland

as for some guys not showing up to worlds ,

knew that couldnt maintain igf peak and risk

losing so feign injury .

dasaoolu being one.

all over longer distances also ,mohammed amans training

group.

sorry ,training camp .

aduck2022 wrote:

sorry ,training camp .

How can you tell who's on the 'lightness'? Sounds like blind speculation.

And anyone who follows Dasaolu knows he's injury prone, why would he even fake an injury?

igf-1 lr3 is all over sprinting ...

not to mention some other sports.

why would athlete fake injury when know that

a igf peak can only last so long .

and leave you very lightly to get beat

if effect is decreasing .

a certain pole vaulter pulled out also maybe

for same reason ,prioritised a pb over

champianship and adjust igf peak accordingly

by next indoor season kilty could definitely

be running into 6.45 's with this stuff .

or might be at max ,time will tell.

AND who is benefiting from this ,

many but stick to the obvious cases .

obvious drops in progression , obviously ,

would be start or by association ,trainig group.

or certain progression at very early age

like bolt ,lemaitre ,japanese guy ,etc .

unheard of progressions at such early ages

for so many sprinters

when were last elite chinese sprinters before steroids era

very obvious red flag .

aduck2022 wrote:

AND who is benefiting from this ,

many but stick to the obvious cases .

obvious drops in progression , obviously ,

would be start or by association ,trainig group.

or certain progression at very early age

like bolt ,lemaitre ,japanese guy ,etc .

unheard of progressions at such early ages

for so many sprinters

when were last elite chinese sprinters before steroids era

very obvious red flag .

I read up on the lightness and it says that natural production peaks during childhood and adolescence. That being said, would that make it safe to give to teenagers to improve their performance. Not to name names, but I'm looking at certain youth and juniors athletes who have ran phenomenal times for their age. Although I hate to think that kids are doping, I can't help but think that something else is going on.

I'm white. I've had lots of international sprint champions. Most were black. I couldn't care less.

I think that aduck2022 might be right about IGF-1, but I don't think it is improving absolute times--I think that athletes are using it to generate artificial peaks, rather than generating the peaks naturally.

Why? Because it is quicker, and repeatable. A sprinter can peak only so many times in a season naturally, sometimes only once. It seems like the lightness can create a multiplicity of peaks, tailored for individual meets.

But look at the overall times. Once again, Sprintgeezer was right, I feel like SG 2.0 Both the winning and the average times are down. Whether that is due to Gatlin, Dasaolu, Collins, and Vicaut not being there, I don't know-what I do know is that Rodgers, Carter, Bracy, etc. were all there, and the times were much more reasonable from a historical perspective. 60m is short, not much time for differentiation among athletes, which is why everybody was so close together.

IGF may have helped athletes peak for this meet, but I don't think that any of those peaks were above their natural peaking ability.

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

track training is free only in places where tracks are public, which surprisingly is just not the case in a lot of places. Most tracks in Europe, in my experience, are club tracks around soccer fields and they often bar outsiders.

Most UK tartan tracks are public owned and run by councils or sub contracted out by them and you have to pay to use them

White people?

If I started a message with Black people, how would that go over?

Maybe "Black people have a pole vault champion"

or Black people have a gold medalist in the winter Olympics