Mo Farah London 'super shoes'

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Coach Cookie wrote:

"Salazar, himself the best marathon man in the world in the early 1980s"

Uh... no...

It might depend on how one defines "early 80's," but when did he first lose after NYC '80? If his loss at Rotterdam (and Fukuoka) wasn't until '82 or '83 (too lazy to look it up), then the label you mock (without saying why) is pretty defensible.

egun wrote:

pretty sure alberto ran nyc in shoes nobody had seen before.

can't remember the name "big apple something or other"

they were so scant and light, we analyzed them in boulder a few years later, tinker hatfield brought the prototypes up there.

they were scary flimsy, but i guess they worked.

hurt when i put them on.

if you are an athlete, its great to think you have the big advantage in your shoes.

read k moore's 'men of Oregon'

Salazar's shoes at NYC '80 looked very similar to the "American Eagle" that came out shortly after (Eagle successor; there was a "Bite out of the Big Apple Nike add for the shoe sometime around that time that you might be thinking of). In 81, I think that he was in something that looked exactly like the American Eagle. And then it was Mariah's, I think....

Explain Yourself wrote:

Coach Cookie wrote:

"Salazar, himself the best marathon man in the world in the early 1980s"

Uh... no...

It might depend on how one defines "early 80's," but when did he first lose after NYC '80? If his loss at Rotterdam (and Fukuoka) wasn't until '82 or '83 (too lazy to look it up), then the label you mock (without saying why) is pretty defensible.

Sorry, meant to put a "?" after "and Fukuoka"...too lazy to look that up, too.

Explain Yourself wrote:

(too lazy to look it up)

too lazy to look that up, too.

So why bother coming here?

ukathleticscoach wrote:When you work do you normally switch between measurement systems. Switching between imperial and metric weights is slack work.

Nike already make racing shoes weighing 160g so how is a 200g reduction going to be achieved even if you divide this between each shoe

you appear too dumb to read

i used the figures provided by the poster who wanted answer for 100g or 200g lighter shoes

Have you added the shoe weight to his total weight as well!

dumb question

That is not what slows down with heavy running shoes and it's you who has no understanding of real world physics. You have a lack of common sense to go with your flawed multi-weight system statistical analysis

don't make me laugh !

your grasp of physics is about as good as your grasp of athletics

i e none

Hardloper wrote:Pretty obvious by now that ventolin has no clue what he's talking about

from a guy who has offered nothing of use on the topic, that is laughable

The shoes undergo a lot more acceleration throughout the stride than the body's center of mass so their mass has a lot more effect

& you forget that the body is connected & as a result the upper limbs/torso will undergo less angular acceleration as a result of higher angular acceleration of the feet because of lighter shoes

you clearly have no clue about this topic

Because every (any?) reply on a freakin' running message board need not be thoroughly researched, d***.

Ventolinsanity (n): The contagion of rudeness and hostility that overcomes any thread on which ventolin posts.

Ventolin, let me give you some advice :

When in a hole, stop digging.

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Were the shoes from today's NYC Half the infamous "super shoes."

Two words come to mind: marginal gains

If Farah really outdoes himself, proving everyone wrong who predicted that he really is more of a 3000/5000m runner than a marathon runner, and has absolutely no chance at a WR unless he is doped to the gills, this will be the answer. It has worked brilliantly with another British sports star, who really was more of a track athlete, triple Olympic champion and world record holder over the 4km distance, before he went on to win the pinnacle of endurance sport.

Bumping this old thread. Was reminded about this after hearing of nike's new marathon shoes to increase efficiency. Is this where the idea started with Farah, or where the concept actually died after his London Marathon?