The Strange Case of Allan Wells

Now a Coach wrote:If Alan Wells' gold was worthless then so were several US Medals in 1984.

not so much in women's sprints

ashford won gold & destroyed doper oelsner in zurich with a wr

During the 1975 European Junior Championships in Athens, Greece, the 17-year-old rising 100-m sprint star, Marlies Oelsner, later known as Marlies Göhr, a world-record holder and Olympic gold medal winner, tested positive for androgenic steroids but the result was not published by the European Association

briscoe-hooks 21.8 / 48.8 golds were huge runs after rounds

even the mighty doper koch never had run so fast doubling in a meet with 200/400

the utterly beautiful eckert

( even with lotta 'roids pumped into her )

was not going to beat valerie

even as defending 2 time 200 champ, only ever ran 21.85 ( + 0.3 ) pb in '84

she had never broken 22 in her life until then despite 2 golds at 200

as for koch, she ran 1-off 21.71 ( +0.3 ) in '84

oelsner above doper ran elsewhere 21.74 ( +0.4 )

oelsner never wouda stood a chance over 200 after rounds, even moreso after running 4 runs of 100 before

believe you me neither wouda beaten briscoe over 200 in games

valerie won 400 in 48.83 but knew her best event was 200

she wouda lost to koch at 400

but at 200 valerie ran after 400

21.81 into a 0.1 !!!

if in '84, gdr was there, i have little doubt, valerie wouda skipped 400 & probably faced a 400-winner koch over 200

regardless, valerie wouda probably gone 21.6-low/mid in '84 in games if she had skipped 400 & that wouda hammered even a koch running only 200 in '84

bottom line

upto '84 games, no gdr showed enough to beat valerie over 200 after rounds

Wells actually had a good season in '81 against the Americans for the most part.

There are a lot of strange cases in track and field. Just look at Carl Lewis, lol. Bitchy, hypocritical, doped.

learn to read/think

that is "official" report

unmotivated runs runs by shocked athletes

boycott announced feb-'80, so trials were nothing-meet

whole year was waste for US guys

damn tough if you give up any serious training because no chance of running in a gold medal race

this shows you have no clue at all about US athletes

they live for games as only gold gives them chance of $$$ in a country where athletics isn't even a top-10 sport in media

no

he ran 10.11 ( +1.31 )

no

RT is another huge aspect

other than that, it's not rocket-science for even most ineptituders

no

i'd say they had better than even chance 1 of them wouda won

not floyd

damn good sprinter & a proto-type mo greene

fast starter & at 5'9/165, helluva lot of power

who ran crap bend & poor race

wells almost deserved that 200 from mennea's ineptitude

as i told you

a shadow of his 9.98/20.06 shape

silvio only ran 10.13sb in '80

as are above

this is some serious stoooopi...

wells wins a mickey-mouse 100 with no americans & "Ryan" who is clearly screwed by mono when he can't even make top-3 in trials being the awesome wr holder at 800 !!!

he didn't run mexico nor seems to have any clue about requirements

it was thought that 3'40 coudn't be broken at 7381'

so Ryun aimed for 3'40

& stuck to plan even in his severely mono-depleted condition when incapable of even qualifying for 800 team as wr holder

he didn't realise the primitive physiology analysis for 1500 was nonsense

he was still probably good for 3'30 at sea-level in a perfect 1500, but keino was quantum leap better in '68

probably at worst

3'27

no

i want to see correction with explanations

iaaf handbook means sh!!t

iaaf aren't olympic meet timers, so any book stating iaaf has no relevance to games

they may invite timers/judges but it is an olympic not iaaf meet

"volume iii"

is official account of games

go to page 25

official wind reading is

+1.11

in my long life, i have never ever heard of a wind-reading being changed !!!

don't waste my time at having to contemplate acquiring an electron microscope

eh ?

official report is

+1.11

The Overexplainer wrote:He was not as slow as it seems. Nobody regularly broke 10.00 until the later '80s. I was reading through old Track Newsletters and was amazed at how many 10.05s and 10.08s and even 10.25s the greatest sprinters in history ran. Then I saw that documentary about the '88 Games and saw some of the older races and saw much of the same.

It seemed to me that the WR had been 9.93 forever, but in reality that happened in 1983 I believe. The first sub-10 at Low-altitude was actually in 1983 and it was 9.97.

So, my long-winded point is: Wells was plenty fast at 10.11.

let me help out

hayes on chewed up lane-1 ran 10.06 with +1.1

that probably was with same wind, 9.81 on pristine dirt

given track had been chewed up by 20k walk earlier, more like 9.7+

add back wind, wr from '64 on a synthetic shouda been basic

~ 9.80 / 9.85

i'm not hayes fan

i've seen the japanese olympic vid

he has long slender lengs for a 5'11+ guy

almost bambi-esque

he is not the physical specimen to be 9.7+ basic

certainly 9.8+ basic

Do you think they would change the official wind reason without good reason!

Only a fool would think he is always right

You are a fool

The wind was -1.2

what part of "official olympic report" your brain not comprehend ???

the report says +1.11 m/s

find where thre IOC has added an amendment

then tell me all the occasions in athletics history where a given wind reading has been changed ???

PDF foot of page:

IAAF.org 100m final results

The guys who compile this for the IAAF are expert statisticians unlike yourself.

You don't even have the common sense to wonder why a final would be won .1 slower than a heat if the conditions were the same

again clueless

olympics is NOT an iaaf meet

iaaf has nothing to do with it other than ratify wrs

whatever iaaf says for wind means nothing :

they weren't the officials

for umpteenth time, the official ioc report says

1.11m/s

if have an ioc report changing this wind reading, then post it or stop wasting my time

as for slow times in the final, there is a simple reason :

they ran rubbish same as '03wc 100m

Wind has been changed before. Read http://www.masterstrack.com/photos/news2003/feb26.html - the part where he talks about his 10.06 at Mt. Sac. in 1988.

[quote]ventolin^3 wrote:

again clueless

olympics is NOT an iaaf meet

iaaf has nothing to do with it other than ratify wrs

whatever iaaf says for wind means nothing '

If a WR is set in the Olympics the IAAF ratifies it as it does all times.

Here is the ratified result:

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/great-britain-ni/allan-wells-9758#honours

Not a wind reading change, but a long jump distance changed by cheating.

Also, Wells was a championship performer who showed up healthy, confident, and fit when it counted most. Winning an Olympic gold medal, especially in the 100m is so much more than just having the physical ability to run a certain time. This aspect of track and field is lost on Ventolin's narrow understanding of human performance.

I love it when coaches get a little creative and try to find training methods that don't just copy what everyone else is doing at the time. I remember watching the Commonwealth Games in 1978 in Edmonton where Wells' coach explained why starting with no blocks was better. Wells put his front foot right at the line with his hands beside them. He started quite well like that.

Even when he started using blocks, he placed the foot pedals very close to the start line believing that the lack of leverage he got was more than made up for by the fact that his feet were 6 inches closer to the finish than the rest.

Wells was built very well and his strength really was his last 30 m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PRbjGR6cus

So Ventolin, you are right, and the IAAF are wrong. Got it.

no

iaaf only has full authority over meets it holds

the only meets it had full time/wind readings veracity authority in '80 were the world cups of '77/'79

it has NO authority whatsoever in the olympics & only ratifies submitted data from ioc

the "official" wind reading in the ioc official report was

+1.11m/s

this time woud not have been submitted to iaaf, as it was not a wr & ioc coudn't give a damn what the iaaf thinks of it

iaaf lists mean nothing

anyone can compile their own lists

iaaf only aasume authority when a wr is submitted for ratification

get a clue

for the umpteenth time, go try & learn to read the official ioc report of '80 games & the wind reading

for the umpteenth time, iaaf changing a wind reading is bullsh!t

find me any other significant race/jump in history where the wind reading was changed ???

then, once more, show me where ioc issued a statement stating the wind readings for that race weren't +1.11 ???

YouBeFullOShi wrote:So Ventolin, you are right, and the IAAF are wrong. Got it.

see immediately above

learn :

iaaf was nothing but a rubber-stamp authority until '77 when starting world cup & still only had authority over time/wind of those for nearly 2 decades, then also wc starting in '83 & junior champs lot later

the 1st time anyone had to take them seriously was when the "golden 4" meets started in mid-'90s evolving into golden then diamond league

as iaaf was putting up the final jackpot, it had authority over veracity of times/wind readings for the involved meets which has now expanded to a ridiculous dozen+/y leaving athletes little time to rest then peak if they want chance of jackpot

Fast old guy wrote:Wind has been changed before. Read

http://www.masterstrack.com/photos/news2003/feb26.html

- the part where he talks about his 10.06 at Mt. Sac. in 1988.

nice story

however :

- this is just an anecdote saying judge said wind was legal

why didn't he ask judge for the exact number ???

if i was an elite sprinter i woudn't just ask for whether it was legal but the number

how about if the number was -3.0 m/s ???

why woudn't he want to know exact number ???

- what was the anemometer reading immediately which he couda seen on it's display if he bothered to look ???

he said he went upto the anenometer, but unable to read a number on a screen ???

- no initial wind-reading was offered which was subsequently changed to 3.0

the only wind reading for that race is 3.0

Tompugh wrote:Wells was a championship performer who showed up healthy, confident, and fit when it counted most

a default gold without his 3 biggest rivals there

Winning an Olympic gold medal, especially in the 100m is so much more than just having the physical ability to run a certain time

a meaningless accomplishment without your 3 biggest rivals there

you obviously think munkelt & beck had "so much more/etc" not having to face skeets or moses ???!!!

sure, pathetic 13.39 / 48.70 showed munkelt/beck had

"so much more/etc"

This aspect of track and field is lost on Ventolin's narrow understanding of human performance

err...

yeah...

your expansive enfeeblement seems to have no bounds...

YouBeFullOShi wrote:

So Ventolin, you are right, and the IAAF are wrong. Got it.

There was a headwind throughout the 100m in 1980, in every round, yet you want to believe that the measurements on the track were wrong?

1980 Final Allan Wells GBR 1 10.25 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Final Silvio Leonard CUB 2 10.25 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Final Petar Petrov BUL 3 10.39 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Final Aleksandr Aksinin URS 4 10.42 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Final Osvaldo Lara CUB 5 10.43 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Final Vladimir Muravyev URS 6 10.44 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Final Marian Woronin POL 7 10.46 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Final Hermann Panzo FRA 8 10.49 Wind = 1.2 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Petar Petrov BUL 1 10.39 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Silvio Leonard CUB 2 10.40 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Aleksandr Aksinin URS 3 10.45 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Hermann Panzo FRA 4 10.45 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Don Quarrie JAM 5 10.55 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Pietro Mennea ITA 6 10.58 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Cameron Sharp GBR =7 10.60 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 1 Grégoire Illorson CMR =7 10.60 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 Allan Wells GBR 1 10.27 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 Osvaldo Lara CUB 2 10.34 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 Vladimir Muravyev URS 3 10.42 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 Marian Woronin POL 4 10.43 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 James Gilkes GUY 5 10.44 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 Eugen Ray GDR 6 10.47 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 Peter Okodogbe NGR 7 10.51 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Semi, Heat 2 Chris Brathwaite TRI 8 10.54 Wind = 0.5 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Allan Wells GBR 1 10.11 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Petar Petrov BUL 2 10.13 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Osvaldo Lara CUB 3 10.21 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Pietro Mennea ITA 4 10.27 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Hasely Crawford TRI =5 10.28 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Sören Schlegel GDR =5 10.28 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Nelson dos Santos BRA 7 10.45 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 1 Lambros Kefalas GRE 8 10.62 Wind = 1.4 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Silvio Leonard CUB 1 10.16 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Marian Woronin POL 2 10.27 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Eugen Ray GDR 3 10.30 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Chris Brathwaite TRI 4 10.37 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Andrey Shlyapnikov URS 5 10.41 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Théophile Nkounkou CGO 6 10.59 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Hammed Adio NGR 7 10.67 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 2 Katsuhiko Nakaya BRA 8 10.70 Wind = 0.2 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Aleksandr Aksinin URS 1 10.29 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Don Quarrie JAM 2 10.29 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Hermann Panzo FRA 3 10.29 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Peter Okodogbe NGR 4 10.34 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Lech Dunecki POL 5 10.40 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Drew McMaster GBR 6 10.42 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Tomás González CUB 7 10.44 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 3 Gerardo Suero DOM 8 10.57 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 James Gilkes GUY 1 10.26 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 Grégoire Illorson CMR 2 10.29 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 Vladimir Muravyev URS 3 10.34 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 Cameron Sharp GBR 4 10.38 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 Antoine Richard FRA 5 10.45 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 Klaus-Dieter Kurrat GDR 6 10.54 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 Krzysztof Zwoliński POL 7 10.54 Wind = 0.3 m/s

1980 Quarter, Heat 4 Olajidie Oyeledun NGR 8 10.73 Wind = 0.3 m/s