Help settle beef 3:20 marathon is...?

Rational wrote:

It qualifies for Boston.

A.

nope. not any more.

takes 3:14:59 for M 40-44

Yup. BAA goes by age on race day. Therefore if 44 year old runs that time this year, they get in next, as they'll be 45.

Admit you are wrong now.

Those standards are generous:

18-34 3hrs 05min 00sec

Baaaaa wrote:

Yup. BAA goes by age on race day. Therefore if 44 year old runs that time this year, they get in next, as they'll be 45.

Admit you are wrong now.

like most here, you need to think a bit more before you post.

do you want me to draw you a picture, that is, show you how you made a baseless assumption. or can you figure it our yourself?

wait what wrote:

Those standards are generous:

18-34 3hrs 05min 00sec

yeah, only requires a time in the top 5 - 6%

jwd wrote:

Baaaaa wrote:

Yup. BAA goes by age on race day. Therefore if 44 year old runs that time this year, they get in next, as they'll be 45.

Admit you are wrong now.

like most here, you need to think a bit more before you post.

do you want me to draw you a picture, that is, show you how you made a baseless assumption. or can you figure it our yourself?

Draw this up.

Guy runs 3:21 as 44 year old last Dec.

Does he get in next Boston?

Answer is?

Baaaaa wrote:

jwd wrote:

like most here, you need to think a bit more before you post.

do you want me to draw you a picture, that is, show you how you made a baseless assumption. or can you figure it our yourself?

Draw this up.

Guy runs 3:21 as 44 year old last Dec.

Does he get in next Boston?

Answer is?

you're making assumptions, with no basis in fact, about both the date/timing of the 3:20 and the runner's birthday.

think, son, think

According to marathon guide 2010 statistics:

the fastest average age-group belonged to men aged 40-44, this year with a mean finishing time of 4:19:51

So there's that.

There is no assumption here. What I posted is a fact.

I am right.

Admit this.

It's killing you. Just type, I'll dictate.

"If guy runs 3:21 in Dec. He is qualified to run Boston 2014."

You're all a bunch of idiots. The condition is that he is 44 yo, not whether he has run 10 marathons or have kids or a life.

3:20 for a 44 year old is horrible. The fastest 44 yo in the world would have finished an hour before him and could have banged his wife before he finished.

the only smart one^3 wrote:

You're all a bunch of idiots. The condition is that he is 44 yo, not whether he has run 10 marathons or have kids or a life.

3:20 for a 44 year old is horrible. The fastest 44 yo in the world would have finished an hour before him and could have banged his wife before he finished.

Yeah but actually that 44 year old 2:20 guy would probably be banging YOUR wife cuz he'd be a stud and you're, well, you're you, a message board troll.

num wrote:

Yeah but actually that 44 year old 2:20 guy would probably be banging YOUR wife cuz he'd be a stud and you're, well, you're you, a message board troll.

Actually that 2:20 guy is a relative hobby jogger. According to World Masters Athletics, the WR holder in that age group is Andres Espinosa with a 2:08. And I think that should put the relative slowness of the 3:20 in the proper perspective

Baaaaa wrote:

There is no assumption here. What I posted is a fact.

I am right.

Admit this.

It's killing you. Just type, I'll dictate.

"If guy runs 3:21 in Dec. He is qualified to run Boston 2014."

Is your mind really that small? is your sense of logic that undeveloped? Your unstated assumption is he turns 45 on or before April 21. Roughly a 30% chance of that.

You stated (assumed) facts that weren't found anywhere else in the thread.

Let's try this one:

A 44-year-old guy's birthday is April 22. Runs 3:20 this year. Therefore, he doesn't get to run Boston in 2014. If he ran 3:20 before September, he doesn't get into 2015 either. If he ran after mid-to-late September, he does get in 2015.

Your original post is possibly correct, but if and only if you assume unstated facts. Weak; even by LRC standards.

You were the one who jumped in thread stating 44 year doesn't qualify for Boston, WITHOUT stating unless said 44 year old has turned 45 by race day. Which happens very often.

What a tool. All you gotta do is say, "my bad".

But you can't. Because again, you are a tool, and can't help it.

num wrote:

the only smart one^3 wrote:

You're all a bunch of idiots. The condition is that he is 44 yo, not whether he has run 10 marathons or have kids or a life.

3:20 for a 44 year old is horrible. The fastest 44 yo in the world would have finished an hour before him and could have banged his wife before he finished.

Yeah but actually that 44 year old 2:20 guy would probably be banging YOUR wife cuz he'd be a stud and you're, well, you're you, a message board troll.

And the 2:20 guy's wife is probably a straight up dog.

Being that he's 132 pound scrawny little thing.

The 3:20 guy, is probably pretty fit and normal looking.

Odds are his wife is far better looking.

I'll take that trade off.

This again...the notion that you have just " average athletic ability" if you can run a 2:45 at ..age 43! Do you know much about running or are you just being disingenuous!!!!! Do you know what the word average means????

3:20 guy wrote:

And the 2:20 guy's wife is probably a straight up dog.

Being that he's 132 pound scrawny little thing.

The 3:20 guy, is probably pretty fit and normal looking.

Odds are his wife is far better looking.

I'll take that trade off.

Gotta think this is accurate.

The 44 y/o 2:20 guy is not cashing a check often enough to avoid the hobby jogger category. He is still chasing the dream. Kinda cool, yet kinda sad at the same time.

The 44 y/o 3:20 guy is putting in some respectable miles, but still has a life outside of running and does not kid himself about being a pro.

Occasionally I go to a minor league baseball game nearby. Class A and NOT affiliated w/ any pro team. You see some guys in their late 20's playing and you hope they realize that the bigs are not gonna happen. If they have the freedom to spend 4 months a year riding a bus for $8K then good for them, I just hope they aren't kidding themselves. They are the equivalent of 44 y/o 2:20.

The 3:20 guy started running 5 years ago when his wife left him because he was fat and lazy. After that he hasn't been close to a woman. His only dream is to get his wife back. And he thinks he can do it by breaking 3:00 and send her a text message telling her about it.

3:20 guy and 2:20 guy get same thing at finish. A bottle of water and a finisher medal.

And Patrick Makau thinks they are both slow.