CHRIS SOLINSKY OUT OF WORLDS.

BTW, the rounds of the women's HJ go the same morning as the men's 5,000m.

He's so full of crap, such a loser.

Go Blanka! A real champion, whether she wins or not.

Sounds like the Cubs.

RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Geezer - Take your hate somewhere else. No one gives a rats ass what you think or what you watch.

It takes hamstring injuries forever to heal. I speak from experience.

The effect of suggesting that Solinsky is doping would be that he would be considered a POS.

Given only the known facts--that he was given a spot on the team, that his event doesn't start for almost 2 weeks, that he ran well not long ago, and that he isn't completely incapacitated--I think he can already be considered a POS without having to suggest doping, which rests on a less firm foundation.

That, combined with the fact that I haven't followed his career closely for a long time, is the only reason why I personally haven't made the suggestion directly.

But, even if he IS injured, and even if it is relatively serious, the fact that he's not even giving it a shot speaks volumes. Why not? What does he have to lose?

Nothing, if he is clean. He could rehab until then, start the race, and drop out whenever he senses real injury coming on.

But he would have everything to lose if he was using.

Sure, he could very well be saving his career by not going--but NOT for the reason that all the fanboys think.

Actually, the Olympic Spirit is summed up by it's motto "Citius, Altius, Fortius" which translates to Faster, Higher, Stronger. So perhaps CS doesn't feel like his hamstring will allow him to perform Faster, Higher, Stronger, so he's actually being quite respectful to the Olympic Spirit. Or maybe you'd like another Eddie the Eagle make a mockery of an event by finishing well beyond the standard set in the race?

Still not sure why you're trying to make the Olympic Spirit relevant to the discussion since it's the World Championships, and those are more about $$ than anything else.

Oh please, can we cut it out with this BS. Is plausible, based on the mechanism of action and side effects of steroids that healing of muscle tears will be prolonged, however, to extrapolate from one molecule to "other PED's" is simply misinformed and ridiculous. You would have to have at least a working knowledge of the mechanism of action of these "other PEDs" and knowledge of how that mechanism acts at a biochemical level to even bring forth this hypothesis.

I said the Olympic spirit, not the Olympic motto.

And I can guarantee you that Solinsky will be going no faster than anybody in the men's 5k, since he won't even be there.

$$ are a by-product of winning.

To win you must compete.

To compete you must show up.

To show up you must not bail out.

Loser.

And the Olympic spirit is all that matters about T&F, unless you are 6-10 yrs old.

Night Runner wrote:

Geezer - Take your hate somewhere else. No one gives a rats ass what you think or what you watch.

It takes hamstring injuries forever to heal. I speak from experience.

You are wrong. At least his posts are not simply rants. You may disagree with them, but at least his posts like many on these boards are not just simplistic attacks.

FOR EVERY ABSOLUTE LOSER LIKE CHRIS SOLINSKY, I GIVE YOU AN ABSOLUTE WINNER LIKE DEREK REDMOND.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFKpZnok10s&feature=related

SCREW CHRIS SOLINSKY.

GO VLASIC.

You think your hero Solinsky would have finished that race?

He didn't even finish Monaco.

Now he's one-upped himself, and not even STARTING Daegu.

LOSER. GET LOST.

Sprint Geezer wrote:

"A few days ago I lasted only 24 attempts in practice and decided to pull out of the World Championships, .

Whether or not she changed her mind, you consider the ABOVE the mentality of a "warrior" ?!?! Hilarious.

The High Jump is a skill/talent sport, there are very little "warrior" qualities involved in it.

Chris Solinsky has suffered more pain, agony, and gone more often into the depths of gut-check nausea during a single week of hard training than Blanca the Preener has felt in her entire lifetime. To compare the warrior nature of a HJ'r to a distance runner is absurd. But you are a sprinter, so we should expect it.

I am not sure what Sol is thinking, but I am not in his shoes, so there is no way I can judge the pain in his leg. Injuries are a very personal thing. I am sure you've had some and people doubted you concerning them. I hope you experienced that and remember that feeling before you rip on Sol any more.

This is the exact mindset that leads to dropping out of the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! it starts like this:

6+months before WC, just an 800 or 1500, the reason for

Dropping out/not starting: it's just an 800 or mile...this is not even his main event, why go all out on something that isn't your race distance when you could be getting in good practice and workouts for WC?

3-4 months: The WC are coming up, and he is trying to peak for them. He said he felt a little off, so why race hard when the big show is still months away? Further aggravating an injury at this point is just dumb. He will show at WC, trust me.

1-2 months out: WC are even closer, you don't want to be peak now. The WC are of utter importance, why risk injury when he could just maintain fitness until WC, while at the same time nursing any injury and staying healthy:

WC time: sorry, he still is not feeling it, it is a tough decision to drop out (like dropping out of the Pre 10k, right?? LoL).

After WC: he hasn't felt good all year, he should just throw in the towel and focus on next ear and try to be healthy for the olympics.

And this, everyone, is the timeline of excuses that leads to being a giant p-ssy who drops out of the freaking WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!

it is a slippery slope (and I am not saying the above is the exact case for everyone, or even solinsky exactly, but it is a general outline of excuses ive seen here 94730 times on letsrun.)

1 year ago: Solinsky, a great hope for us distance running: 26:59, multiple sub 13 5ks just during the summer. Now: a giant p-ssy who has a 3:54 mile as his best to show ALL YEAR and still hasn't even completed a 10k since his AR. unbelievable.

the basics wrote:

You are wrong. At least his posts are not simply rants. You may disagree with them, but at least his posts like many on these boards are not just simplistic attacks.

Um,......no. Actually his posts are indeed the definition of a "rant", and are highly simplistic.

They are so simplistic I will sum them up in one sentence:

"Sol is a wuss for not running in world's because no matter how hurt one is, one should ALWAYS line up for the world's or olympics, because it's a possibly once in a lifetime chance."

Yeah, soooooo much nuance and complexity in that argument. But it's what we expect from sprinters.

And I'll raise you Jackie Joyner-Kersee in 1996:

"At the Olympic Trials, Joyner-Kersee sustained an injury to her right hamstring. When the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia began, Joyner-Kersee was not fully recovered by the time the heptathlon started. After running the first event, the 100 m hurdles, the pain was unbearable and she withdrew. She was able to recover well enough to compete in the long jump and qualify for the final, but was in sixth place in the final with one jump remaining. Her final jump of 7.00 m (23 ft 0 in) was long enough for her to win the bronze medal. The Atlanta Olympics would be the last Olympics of Joyner-Kersee's long competitive career."

And she had a REAL hamstring injury. She STARTED the hep, because she TRIED to win. She kept going until the point she realized she COULD NOT keep going, but she TRIED because she earned, and was given, the opportunity, and she had enough integrity and courage to realize the value and meaning of that opportunity, totally unlike that loser Solinsky.

To even mention their names in the same post is an insult to the great Jackie Joyner.

And you know what? She STARTED the LJ, and medalled.

Even though she got bronze, she won the event.

Solinsky's a loser, plain and simple.

This is some of Solinsky's twitter from just before IAAF announced mandatory blood testing on 8/11/2011.I have to admit, the timing looks VERY suspicious. I think someone really injured and trying to rest for WC might not be doing a speed sessions within 2 weeks of a WC...It's going to be interesting to see if some of these tweets get deleted. Guilty as charged?

Lancelot--

Put up, or shut up.

She is going. She couldn't live with her "smart" (cowardly) decision.

Good for her. We all make mistakes, the important thing is to recognize them quickly and take immediate action to remedy them.

Solinsky should change his mind, too, and GO.

And you're a f'ing idiot if you think the competitive warrior spirit is any different in HJ, 10k, badminton, snooker, poker, whatever.

You can get lost, too, if you're disrespecting HJ'ers who show more balls than Solinsky even if they're female.

You think it's no work? No pain? Tell that to Stefan Holm, a million-times-more-dedicated athlete, infinitely greater warrior, than Chris Solinsky.

And once more, I don't give one bit of crap how bad anybody thinks his injury is, or how bad he thinks it is, or how bad it actually is (if he is even injured at all).

You got a spot, YOU GO. YOU START. YOU COMPETE. YOU TRY.

Unless you're a loser.

Har Har

Nelson Munse