Ryan Hall, 27, and not getting any younger...NOT the great white american hope

Any post-race comments from Hall or Mahon?

The 8th Estate wrote:

Any post-race comments from Hall or Mahon?

.Just landed in Phili!!!

7:11 PM Sep 16th via TweetDeck

Rough race today...a little bummed bit God is still good and still enough.

10:25 AM Sep 19th via TweetDeck

via twitter.

Dont see how that makes sense wrote:

crazygerman wrote:

Hope God doesn't feel the same way about you. It wouldn"t be good.

Why would you say that? I thought that God's feeling were automatically "good". Indeed, I thought that this was the definition of "good".

Your comment reminds me of folks who pray to God for something to be different (a relative to be healed...). Why on earth would one pray to God for something like this? Doesn't He/She already have complete information? Isn't He/She infinitely loving and wise? Why then would you think of trying to influence His/Her actions?

You're not really looking for an answer, and as a consequence this will go right over your head. HOWEVER, Christians tend to pray that "God's will be done." That does not automatically mean that a sick person will be healed. It means that God's plan would be revealed. In some ways it is more a prayer of inner-reflection reminding ourselves that God IS in control and his will SHALL be done.

You heard it here first...Solinksy will crush both dathan and ryan....not to mention German! dathan and ryan are so over the hill.

dathan is plagued with injuries (he is done unless he figures out to run without killing himself every 3 months...where is brad) and hall likes to do his own tempo during races (mentally he is done)...

One thing that concerns me is subscribing too much to the mindset of "running his own race" and laying off the pace as the main protagonists of 5-10 high quality Kenyans/Ethiopians mix it up. It seems to me that there is just too much quality and depth to expect all of those guys coming back to an even-paced running Hall. With the number of 2:05-2:07 capable guys in every field, Hall will have to take risks and run a little out of his comfort zone to get back on the podium against a top field.

Trollop wrote:

You're not really looking for an answer, and as a consequence. HOWEVER, Christians tend to pray that "God's will be done." That does not automatically mean that a sick person will be healed. It means that God's plan would be revealed. In some ways it is more a prayer of inner-reflection reminding ourselves that God IS in control and his will SHALL be done.

This statement, "You're not really looking for an answer", is false. As a consequence, you are wrong. See how that works - say something that is false and you are wrong.

This statement, " this will go right over your head", is also false. Again you are wrong. Now why would you want to be so blatantly wrong? Especially as God is all about truth!

Most "Christians" that I know of pray for certain things to happen. As I pointed out, this does not seem to make any sense. Now they may also pray as a sort of inner-reflection at times, but that does not negate the fact that when things aren't going "right" (in their book), they pray for divine intervention. Of course you do have the option of simply denying that they are "real" Christians. But then, the question of who really is a Christian becomes a very tricky one. I prefer to either take folks at their word on this one or throw the whole thing out.

My legitimate question stands. And your answer, while reasonable in substance probably, would have been better off without starting with two blatantly false and ignorant declarations.

I'm just glad to hear that he claims god is still good - even when Hall runs a race not as fast as he likes!

God's stature seems almost as tenuous as mine of late!

After a stellar 14th place finish I wonder what he has in store for us next? Maybe he can move up a few spots and sneak in the back door for a top 10!!!!!

I still feel he'll bounce back for a another solid run at Chicago because he doesn't know how to run a bad marathon. Maybe he's been training hard for too long? He decided on Chicago before he even went to the line at Boston. I remember reading about going after his speed early and at this point he doesn't need 6 months to train for one race.

The 8th Estate wrote:

Any post-race comments from Hall or Mahon?

Lengthy assessment from Hall here:

My guess? He went out hard, didn't feel all that great, and backed off and decided to run MP. Of course, that still doesn't leave him where he wants to be (I'm sure he isn't looking to run 2:07:50), but that could be that he just misjudged where he needed to be to hit MP. I say he shut it down and tempo'd it.

My guess? He'll run Chicago and a spring marathon and then focus on a track season next year. No fall marathon with the trials being in Jan, so next summer will be a great time to get a new stimulus.

hhhhhhhhh wrote:

... go hang on to the lead for as long as you can and make it hurt. Thats what racing is about.

And all this time I thought that racing was about trying to win.

OK, I admit I am lazy, but has anyone mentioned that it is quite simply a racist statement to talk about someone being a the next great WHITE american hope?

Of course it might speak to the demographics of the white distance runners on LRC, but that does not change the fact that it is racist.

Conto wrote:

My guess? He went out hard, didn't feel all that great, and backed off and decided to run MP. Of course, that still doesn't leave him where he wants to be (I'm sure he isn't looking to run 2:07:50), but that could be that he just misjudged where he needed to be to hit MP. I say he shut it down and tempo'd it.

My guess? He'll run Chicago and a spring marathon and then focus on a track season next year. No fall marathon with the trials being in Jan, so next summer will be a great time to get a new stimulus.

This is a good point. He almost has to do a track season after Boston (or London). Let's see how Mahon handles that one.

Worst Case Scenario - He decides that the bomb at Chicago was caused by too short of a buildup and does an extra long streak of marathon work before the trials.

Simone wrote:

This is a good point. He almost has to do a track season after Boston (or London). Let's see how Mahon handles that one.

Could be the best thing that ever happened to him. Better yet, just don't pound the legs at Boston again and take a year off from marathoning all together.

Salmon:

Not sure how you convert Hall's half marathon best to a 2:09 marathon.

This website,

http://www.alltime-athletics.com

has the 59:43 half marathon as tied for 78th best of all time. It has Hall's London 2:06:17 in 50th place all time on the marathon list. A time of 2:09 is 667th place.

The McMillan calculator converts 59:43 to 2:05:57.

Bump, the title of this thread is further confirmed.

Well, until somebody beats his times, he is the great white American runner at the top of the all-time list.