1980 Olympic Trials 10000m photo

pre841 wrote:

Not Lindsey. He wasn't running for AW. It is somewhat inconceivable though that you could see Tony Sandoval "over" anyone's shoulder; he was pretty short.

Not inconceivable at all. It's Tony Sandoval.

The only person of doubt is the runner next to Sandoval. He either Anderson or Wells. I'm still leaning towards Sparky, but it is a rational assumption that Sandoval and Wells would have stepped up to the line together.

Lorenzo the Magnificent wrote:

1. Herb 43:49

2. Little Enos 43:50

3. Honey Pfitz 44:14

4. Pete "Jeeves" Butler 44:19

5. Mike Buhmann 44:43

6. Kenji Ide's of March

7. malmo

8. Zonker

9. Colorado Ted

10. Charley "Up All Night" Vigil

That was a month after Mt St Helens erupted. The streets still had ash in all of the gutters. On a turn early in the race Benji Durden slipped on the ash and hit the deck. I vaguely remember being right there, but thought it might be my imagination until Benji showed me this picture recently.

malmo wrote:

A couple more:

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http://i32.tinypic.com/167lawn.jpg

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http://i25.tinypic.com/6fxd94.jpg

I think those are my photos. Where did you find them?

Not saying that it wasn't Tony; I was just saying that it would be rare to see him "over" someone's shoulder (ie. he was short).

malmo wrote:

That's not Dillon, it's Steve Ortiz.

Seeing the other race photos it is clear I was wrong. I missed the other photos you put up but I was not alone it seems Dans wife missidentified him as well.

pre841 wrote:

Image:

http://i32.tinypic.com/167lawn.jpg

Image:

http://i25.tinypic.com/6fxd94.jpg

I think those are my photos. Where did you find them?

I'm not sure Joe. Are they yours? Your Facebook page? If so do you have the originals somewhere?

rabbit breeder wrote:

Seeing the other race photos it is clear I was wrong. I missed the other photos you put up but I was not alone it seems Dans wife missidentified him as well.

It seems that Patti wasn't sure if the race was in Eugene or if it was the Olympic Trials, and she also thought that Steve Ortiz was her husband? Don't tell Dan about Steve.

last lap wrote:

Anyone else find Fredericks to be somnewhat enigmatic? Always "there", looking smooth (even amused, in this photo), but never in the limelight. I've seen so many photos of him and know nothing of him.

1980 Olympic Trials

1. Craig Virgin 27:45.61

2. Greg Fredericks 28:03.14

3. Alberto Salazar 28:10.42

4. Jeff Wells 28:12.85

5. Mike Buhman 28:12.99

6. Tom Wysocki 28:19.56

7. Steve Ortiz 28:27.39

8. Tony Sandival 28:29.94

1978 AAU

1. Marty Liquori 13:40.2

2. Greg Fredericks 13:41.0

3. Matt Centrowitz 13:41.0

4. Ralph King 13:42.9

5. Randy Melancon 13:43.1

6. Mike Novelli 13:43.8

1977 AAU

1. Marty Liquori 13:41.6

2. Greg Fredericks 13:42.9

3. Randy Melancon 13:43.6

4. Ralph King 13:44.4

5. Paul Geis 13:45.4

6. Steve Plasencia 13:49.0

1976 Olympic Trials

1. Dick Buerkle 13:26.60

2. Duncan McDonald 13:29.46

3. Paul Geis 13:38.46

4. Don Kardong 13:47.38

5. Ted Casteneda 13:53.94

6. Mike Keough 14:01.5

7. Greg Fredericks 14:09.2

1975 AAU Cross Country

1. 28:57 Greg Fredericks

2. 28:58 John Gregorio

3. 28:58 Garry Bjorklund

4. 28:59 Glen Herold

5. 29:01 Don Kardong

6. 29:01 Gary Tuttle

7. 29:05 Paul Bannon

8. 29:13 Steve Flanagan

9. 29:16 George Malley

10. 29:17 Marty Liquori

11. 29:17 Ted Castaneda

12. 29:18 Doug Brown

1975 AAU

1. Marty Liquori 13:29.0 MRm

2. Dick Buerkle 13:31.6

3. Ted Castenada 13:33.2

4. Craig Virgin 13:35.2

5. Greg Fredericks 13:37.6

6. John Gregorio 13:38.4

1972 AAU

1. Greg Fredericks 28:08.0 American Record

2. Frank Shorter 28:12.0

3. Tom Laris 28:12.6

4. Jack Bacheler 28:13.4

5. Jeff Galloway 28:30.0

6. Juan Martinez (MEX) 28:32.8

1972 NCAA 5000

1. Steve Prefontaine 13:31.4 American Record

2. Greg Fredericks 13:34.0

3. John Hartnett 13:43.4

4. Glenn Herold 13:45.8

5. Mike Keough 13:48.3

6. Rick Hitchcock 13:49.5

1971 NCAA 3 mile

1. Steve Prefontaine 13:20.1

2. Greg Fredericks 13:28.0

3. Len Hilton 13:31.6

4. Gordon Minty 13:39.7

5. Sid Sink 13:42.1

6. Richard Reid 13:46.4

1970 NCAA 3 mile

1. Steve Prefontaine 13:22.0

2. Barry Bjorklund 13:28.5

3. Dick Buerkle 13:27.8

4. Don Kardong 13:28.0

5. Greg Fredericks 13:30.0

6. Martin Robb 13:39.3

A decade of ubiquity.

[quote]last lap wrote:

A decade of ubiquity.

And a decade of accomplishment! Despite his difficulties in the '72 and '76 Oly Trials, Greg had a remarkable career. In his PSU days he could run on the 4X440 and every relay longer than that. He had an incredibly efficient and economical running stride, probably the smoothest runner I ever saw.

Not sure about his HS times, but I think he was a 4:20 miler....certainly not a blue chipper.

Does anyone have any pictures of the women from 1980? It would be great to see the 800 and 1500

malmo wrote:

A couple more:

Image:

http://i32.tinypic.com/167lawn.jpg

Image:

http://i25.tinypic.com/6fxd94.jpg

pre841 wrote:

I think those are my photos. Where did you find them?

Not sure if this is where malmo found his, but I found them on this page:

suzie-q wrote:

Does anyone have any pictures of the women from 1980? It would be great to see the 800 and 1500

There might be photos somewhere in this huge, unorganized mess of awesome old photos:

Chris Wasnetsky wrote:

Not sure if this is where malmo found his, but I found them on this page:

http://www.runningentertainment.com/runningshots17.html

Is that Joe's website? I'd bet that's where I got them. Thanks.

Not sure if it is Joe's website, sounds like the owner was borrowing the pictures.

"1980 U.S. Olympic Trials @ Eugene - 10,000 meter final. Told in pictures, courtesy of Joe Volk."

Do you know if there are any other websites out there with old school photo collections like those, or are they just scattered randomly across the web?

malmo wrote:

Chris Wasnetsky wrote:

Not sure if this is where malmo found his, but I found them on this page:

http://www.runningentertainment.com/runningshots17.html

Is that Joe's website? I'd bet that's where I got them. Thanks.

Malmo,

Did Harry Groves run alot of technique drills? Stemmer and Fredericks running form is the same. Chin down. Look at the others,almost all the others, their chins are up. I ran against Fredericks in 1978 in West Virginia when I was in the Marines. He smoked me, but I was in the same race.

Malmo,

Did Harry Groves run alot of technique drills? Stemmer and Fredericks running form is the same. Chin down. Look at the others,almost all the others, their chins are up. I ran against Fredericks in 1978 in West Virginia when I was in the Marines. He smoked me, but I was in the same race.[/quote]

Nope, all you had to do was run behind Greg in any workout and see how efficient he was. Then you just tried to copy it. If you ever saw Stem and Greg run together, the "chin down" is the only thing they had in common. Stem leaned forward on stick legs which were topped by a wrestler's upper body.

GF Fan wrote:

Nope, all you had to do was run behind Greg in any workout and see how efficient he was. Then you just tried to copy it. If you ever saw Stem and Greg run together, the "chin down" is the only thing they had in common. Stem leaned forward on stick legs which were topped by a wrestler's upper body.

Stemmer was a freak of nature. At 120 pounds he could bench press 285. He's never been sick a day of his life. NIH should study him and produce a vaccine renders the inoculated immune from the common cold.

Yes that was a wrestlers body. He even made it to the finals of Penn States Inter-mural wrestling championship -- which is saying a lot. Coach Groves found out and made him drop out. The funny thing about it is that Stemmer showed up to the mat wearing a Zorro mask and a cape. His roommate Pat would coach him from the side. When Pat gave the thumbs-down sign, Stem would flip his opponent over and pin him. You can't make up shit as funny as that.

GF Fan wrote:

Malmo,

Did Harry Groves run alot of technique drills? Stemmer and Fredericks running form is the same. Chin down. Look at the others,almost all the others, their chins are up. I ran against Fredericks in 1978 in West Virginia when I was in the Marines. He smoked me, but I was in the same race.

Nope, all you had to do was run behind Greg in any workout and see how efficient he was. Then you just tried to copy it. If you ever saw Stem and Greg run together, the "chin down" is the only thing they had in common. Stem leaned forward on stick legs which were topped by a wrestler's upper body.[/quote]

I remember, back in the early 80's, when i saw Stemmer thinking, that dude has guns for a distance runner. I obtained those guns, but also 50lbs to go with them. Stemmers arms were very impresive for a distance runner.