josh cox half marathon

I wuz there wrote:

The thing about Josh is that he is always running insane workouts. He is faster than even Bekele in practice. If the 4 by 3200 was an Olympic event, he would be a medal contender.

Phil?

brianb82 wrote:

Nothing wrong with aiming high. My goal for every marathon is to run 2hrs 4 min. Man....I just come up 60 to 90 mins short but I will keep on trying.

Go Josh!

if your goals are off by 60 to 90 minutes, then you are beyond delusion. josh is merely delusional. you are basically retarded.

Rusty Bait wrote:

How do you geniunely[sic] believe you are going to run 1:02-1:03 when you actually run 1:06:44? I can see an[sic] novice runner making such a miscalculation of their[sic] fitness, but you think an elite would be a little more in touch with their[sic] actual fitness level.

I understand it was humid but not bad enough to effect[sic] times by anything more than a minute.

Obviously you weren't there. It was plenty hot enough to affect times by more than a minute, especially if you spend your time training in cool dry air and didn't really taper.

For example, the full San Antonio marathon had 257 Boston qualifiers this year, vs. 635 last year. Plus, it was a bigger race this year with more runners shooting for a BQ than last year. Ask anyone who ran SA this year--it was a bloodbath.

Cox's goal was obviously ambitious, and would have depended on him running the race of his life in perfect conditions. The conditions were deplorable, and he had a bad day on top of it. These things happen--which you'll eventually realize if you choose to run seriously beyond your current high school 5k xc races.

orbitboy wrote:

Cox's goal was obviously ambitious, and would have depended on him running the race of his life in perfect conditions.

Your point is well taken - the conditions were bad and everything. But, the issue I see w/ Cox is that he's always touting his "best case, best condtions, tapered down, fully trained for" ambitions when he is NOT tapering or even focusing on this race. Even though he NEVER does what he says - he still despirately NEEDS everybody to have the knowledge of what shape he's in rather than just performing and having that speak for itself.

workout as a PR + outright lies about times = annoying teammate that nobody wants to hear from ...... everybody's been around one of these guys/girls

orbitboy wrote:

it was a bloodbath.

Geez, you make it sound as though you were defending the Alamo down there.

As far as I know, Josh has never run faster than 65:10 on a record-quality half-marathon course (and that was on a very fast course), so I doubt that the conditions that produced his 66:44 in San Antonio, although not laboratory-perfect, were anywhere close to blood-bath or death-march levels.

Although I remember Josh from over ten years ago, I never really paid much attention to his career. He seemed like a durable and modestly talented marathoner who had the unusual combination of a fitness-magazine model's looks and a competent distance runner's credentials, and he's obviously capitalized on that. But he and his sponsors have made a number of claims about his running that seem to range somewhere between terribly misleading and patently false.

I'm still waiting to hear the story behind the claimed 47:32 10-mile PR. I'm also waiting to hear about the performance that allegedly qualified him to run in the 2004 Olympic trials at 10,000m, as indicated in this Powerbar press release:

(I also want to hear who is responsible for certifying "world records" for treadmill performances that don't amount to anything more than moderately paced training runs for any decent marathoner. Of course, Josh's comment that he "couldn’t have broken the record [of 2:37:40] without drinking the POWERBAR Beverage System" is simply absurd.)

You are the retarded one by even responding to my post. I think everyone here knew it was a joke.

Avocados Number wrote:

so I doubt that the conditions that produced his 66:44 in San Antonio, although not laboratory-perfect, were anywhere close to blood-bath or death-march levels.

Again, obviously you weren't there. You qualify your assertion with "i doubt" but then take your own assumption as gospel even though you really don't know what you're talking about.

Look, I'll be the first to say that Josh Cox is obviously a self-important, self-absorbed narcissist. He's not a world class marathoner or half marathoner, either. But so what? So he has an inflated opinion of himself. So what? I really wonder about people who have nothing better to do than anonymously bash people on internet message boards. Josh Cox isn't worth your time. Get a life!

Did you just do a spelling/grammar check on my post? Can I ask why that was necessary? That’s a geniune [sic] question too by the way. I’m guessing you did it for one of 3 reasons:1. You have a passion to educate others2. You are delusional 3. You get off on it because it makes you feel smarterYou do know that this is a message board where perfect grammar is not expected, right?

I disagree. When is it not a noble cause to call out deception? Whether you like it or not, Josh gets a lot of media attention in our sport. So it's justified for us to ask that he present himself in an accurate light. This a sport we all have a passion and respect for. We understand how hard you have to work to achieve your goals. That's why people are sensitive to someone inflating their image with false claims and exagerations. Indirectly, it belittles us.

orbitboy wrote:

Avocados Number wrote:

so I doubt that the conditions that produced his 66:44 in San Antonio, although not laboratory-perfect, were anywhere close to blood-bath or death-march levels.

Again, obviously you weren't there. You qualify your assertion with "i doubt" but then take your own assumption as gospel even though you really don't know what you're talking about.

Look, I'll be the first to say that Josh Cox is obviously a self-important, self-absorbed narcissist. He's not a world class marathoner or half marathoner, either. But so what? So he has an inflated opinion of himself. So what? I really wonder about people who have nothing better to do than anonymously bash people on internet message boards. Josh Cox isn't worth your time. Get a life!

I think you all have a secret crush on Josh.

If 1:10 - 1:30 half marathoners (and more) think Josh is a tool and cringe when he does his self-promotion, think of how the 1:06:xx guys feels - then think of how the 1:02:xx guys feel!!!!

AWWWWWKWARD!!!!

People wanting Boston Qualifiers usually undertrain and are underprepared. Cox should be the opposite of that. So bad analogy.

Rusty Bait wrote:

Did you just do a spelling/grammar check on my post? Can I ask why that was necessary? That’s a geniune [sic] question too by the way.

I’m guessing you did it for one of 3 reasons:

1. You have a passion to educate others

2. You are delusional

3. You get off on it because it makes you feel smarter

You do know that this is a message board where perfect grammar is not expected, right?

Wrong. I did it to show what an idiot you are. It worked.

orbitboy: you are a tool that clearly had a Josh Cox day at the half.

brianb82 wrote:

I think you all have a secret crush on Josh.

Brian Ball, your not fooling anyone. You love Josh. It's alright. But seriously, the dude makes more false claims than an infomercial.

brianb82 wrote:

Nothing wrong with aiming high.

So long as you like fucking navels or a-holes.

i cant agree more, when i heard the kid from the bachelor was training w/Ryan Hall. I almost feel out of my seat, can you imagine going to practice and hearing Cox non stop nonsense about everything and nothing.

also look at the times for 46th/47th place. not dependable, bad race, bad people. Josh Cox sucks. Just like Ryan Hall, that barringer girl, Jordan Hessey, Meb, shannon rowburry, jorge torres, dean, steve pre, haile G, kwambi. and just for fun, let's also say: brad pitt, jennifer anniston, mark walburg, paris hilton, obama, biden, romney, the garbage man from down the street, jamie foxx, etc. THEY ALL SUCK. THEY ALL NEED TO QUIT WHAT THEY WERE DOING CAUSE I AM BETTER THEN THEM. I mean josh cox should quit running, all because i ran a 1:12 half marathon, i could easily beat him, and all those actors, they should quit cause i starred in a cereal commercial. also the politicians should quite cause i was on student council last year. I am just so much better than them all...

Several people said something along the lines of: "Josh Cox isn't worth your time. Get a life!"

The reason this topic is worth my time (and this reason probably holds for some others) is that working your butt off to be able to distinguish yourself in our sport, no matter how slightly, is a source of pride. When someone violates the "rules of the game" by claiming a right to a time that hasn't been earned, it minimizes the accomplishment of those who have.

If Josh *implies* a 1:03-flat but only ran 1:04:01, then he's offending NOT ONLY guys who have run 1:03:00 to 1:04:00, BUT ALSO all guys (and girls) who play by the rules of engagement.

My PR is >2min slower than Josh's, but I'm no less entitled to call bullsh*t than a :59 guy or a 1:59 guy.