Will A Couple Hundred Thousand Turn Out for the Olympic Trials at 7:30 am?

yeah, this makes sense. As if the entire Manhattan TC won't be there watching Dusen in the Trials.

another savvy remark from "NYC." keep it up!

Here's the starting list as of 10/19/07:

Men's Marathon Qual. Mark Entry

James Carney unattached / New Balance 27:44* qualified

Josh Rohatinsky unattached 27:55* qualified

Daniel Browne unattached / Nike 28:11* qualified

Matthew Gonzales unattached / Nike 28:22* qualified

Westly Keating unattached 28:24* qualified

Edwardo Torres unattached / Reebok 28:28 qualified

Matthew Downin unattached / New Balance 28:31* qualified

Sergio Reyes Asics Aggie Running Club 28:40* qualified

Khalid Khannouchi unattached / New Balance 2:07:04 qualified

Ryan Hall unattached 2:08:24 qualified

Abdi Abdirahman unattached / Nike 2:08:56 qualified

Meb Keflezighi unattached / Nike 2:09:56 qualified

Brian Sell Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:10:47 qualified

Alan Culpepper unattached / Nike 2:11:02 qualified

Peter Gilmore unattached 2:12:45 qualified

Mbarak Hussein unattached 2:12:53 qualified

Dathan Ritzenhein unattached / Nike 2:14:01 qualified

Simon Sawe unattached 2:14:09 qualified

Clint Verran Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:14:12 qualified

James Jurcevich Columbus Running Company 2:14:28 qualified

Ryan Shay unattached / Saucony 2:14:58 qualified

Chad Johnson Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:15:03 qualified

Mike Morgan Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:15:11 qualified

Kyle O'Brien Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:15:13 qualified

Brandon Leslie unattached / Brooks 2:15:20 qualified

Luke Humphrey Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:15:22 qualified

Casey Moulton Greater Lowell Road Runners 2:15:26 qualified

Nathaniel Jenkins unattached / Saucony 2:15:28 qualified

Miguel Nuci Transports Adidas Racing Team 2:15:34 qualified

Patrick Moulton Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:15:35 qualified

Joshua Ordway Columbus Running Company 2:15:39 qualified

Jason Hartmann unattached / Nike 2:15:50 qualified

Hobie Call unattached 2:16:39 qualified

Nick Schuetze Team XO 2:16:42 qualified

Jacob Frey unattached / Saucony 2:16:44 qualified

Nick Arciniaga Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:16:58 qualified

Martin Rosendahl Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:17:05 qualified

Chris Seaton unattached / Reebok 2:17:32 qualified

Chris Lundstrom Team USA Minnesota 2:17:34 qualified

Michael Reneau Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:17:46 qualified

Michael McKeeman unattached 2:17:50 qualified

Dan Sutton Wisconsin Runner Racing Team 2:17:54 qualified

Ryan Meissen Wisconsin Runner Racing Team 2:18:04 qualified

Paul Petersen unattached 2:18:09 qualified

Cecil Franke unattached 2:18:13 qualified

Fasil Bizuneh unattached / New Balance 2:18:14 qualified

Steve Meinelt unattached / Reebok 2:18:15 qualified

Chris Graff unattached / Asics 2:18:18 qualified

James Lander unattached / Brooks 2:18:25 qualified

Joe Driscoll ZAP Fitness 2:18:40 qualified

John Lucas Team XO 2:18:50 qualified

Sean Sundwall Club Northwest 2:18:55 qualified

David Ernsberger unattached 2:18:56 qualified

Matt Pelletier Running Heritage 2:19:00 qualified

Jason Lehmkuhle Team USA Minnesota 2:19:03 qualified

Carlos Carballo Transports Adidas Racing Team 2:19:13 qualified

Donovan Fellows unattached 2:19:23 qualified

Justin Young unattached / Reebok 2:19:25 qualified

Steven Moreno Transports Adidas Racing Team 2:19:30 qualified

Teren Jameson unattached / New Balance 2:19:32 qualified

John Mentzer U.S. Navy 2:19:33 qualified

David Danley unattached 2:19:34 qualified

Jason Ryf unattached 2:19:37 qualified

Lance Parker unattached 2:19:44 qualified

Jason Delaney Boulder Running Company/adidas 2:19:45 qualified

Mikhail Sayenko unattached / Brooks 2:19:45 qualified

Michael Smith Team Altius 2:19:45 qualified

Andrew Cook unattached 2:19:47 qualified

Dan Kahn unattached 2:19:47 qualified

Matthew Hooley Wisconsin Runner Racing Team 2:19:58 qualified

Trent Briney Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:20:10 qualified

Marzuki Stevens Transports Adidas Racing Team 2:20:11 qualified

Patrick Rizzo Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:20:12 qualified

Matt Levassiur unattached / Brooks 2:20:15 qualified

Andy Martin Asics Aggie Running Club 2:20:17 qualified

David Gramlich unattached 2:20:19 qualified

Justin Patananan Nike Team Run LA 2:20:19 qualified

Aaron Sharp Nike Team Run LA 2:20:24 qualified

Antonio Arce unattached 2:20:32 qualified

Corey Stelljes Wisconsin Runner Racing Team 2:20:32 qualified

Marc Jeuland Carrboro Athletics Club 2:20:33 qualified

Karl Dusen unattached / Brooks 2:20:35 qualified

Zachary Schendel Team Ortho 2:20:36 qualified

Nick Stanko unattached / Brooks 2:20:37 qualified

Matthew Folk Team Good River 2:20:43 qualified

Ben Rosario Big River Running Company 2:20:43 qualified

Jeff Jonaitis Universal Sole-Reebok 2:20:48 qualified

Donnie Franzen Fleet Feet -Nike Racing Team 2:20:49 qualified

Nicholas McCombs unattached 2:20:50 qualified

Terrance Shea Boston Athletic Association 2:20:52 qualified

Christopher Zieman West Valley Track Club, Inc. 2:20:54 qualified

Chris Wehrman Nike Central Elite Racing Team 2:20:55 qualified

Josh Cox unattached 2:20:57 qualified

Pete Gilman Gear Running Store 2:20:57 qualified

Christopher Raabe unattached 2:20:58 qualified

Eric Post unattached 2:21:00 qualified

Todd Snyder Hansons-Brooks Distance Project 2:21:00 qualified

James Nielsen Transports Adidas Racing Team 2:21:01 qualified

Kyle Baker unattached / Brooks 2:21:02 qualified

Steve Sundell unattached 2:21:03 qualified

Thomas Kutter Atlanta Track Club 2:21:05 qualified

Eric Heins Kansas City Smoke 2:21:09 qualified

Greg Costello Nike Central Elite Racing Team 2:21:14 qualified

Thomas Greenless unattached / Reebok 2:21:16 qualified

Garick Hill Twin City Track Club 2:21:18 qualified

Nathanael Usher Front Line Racing Team 2:21:21 qualified

Allen Wagner unattached 2:21:21 qualified

Robert Cannon unattached 2:21:24 qualified

Thomas McGlynn unattached 2:21:24 qualified

Nicholas Cordes unattached / Brooks 2:21:29 qualified

John Service Asics Aggie Running Club 2:21:31 qualified

Edward Baker unattached 2:21:35 qualified

Michael Wardian Pacers/Brooks 2:21:37 qualified

Danny Mackey unattached 2:21:39 qualified

Zachary Freudenburg unattached 2:21:40 qualified

Michael Cox unattached 2:21:42 qualified

Macharia Yuot unattached 2:21:42 qualified

Sage Canaday Cornell University 2:21:43 qualified

Christopher Banks unattached 2:21:44 qualified

Logan Fielding unattached 2:21:45 qualified

Jonathan Little Kansas City Smoke 2:21:48 qualified

Matthew Byrne Philadelphia Runner Track Club /PUMA 2:21:50 qualified

Brad Poore West Valley Track Club, Inc. 2:21:51 qualified

Nathan Wadsworth Kansas City Smoke 2:21:51 qualified

Daniel Ellis unattached 2:21:52 qualified

Michael Heidt Club Northwest 2:21:54 qualified

Steven Frisone unattached 2:21:55 qualified

Edward Callinan Philadelphia Runner Track Club /PUMA 2:21:56 qualified

Alan Horton unattached 2:21:58 qualified

James McGown Team Nebraska Brooks 2:22:00 qualified

Adam Tribble unattached 2:22:01 qualified

Konrad Knutsen Transports Adidas Racing Team 2:22:02 qualified

Gene Mitchell The Running Company 2:21 open

David Williams Wisconsin Runner Racing Team 2:20:28 open

They couldn't get 200,000 in Central Park at dawn on a Saturday morning if they were giving our free beer and lap dances...

sounds like the Puerto Rico day parade.

Throw in a free concert on the Great Lawn with 50 Cent and Beyoncé (et al.) and you might get 200k. But not until 10:00 AM when the race has just ended.

"deepest men's field ever" and only 18 bettered paula's world record in the qual. window. crazy!

Can someone do the math on the Thanksgiving Day Parade? Macy's/NYC claim 2.5MM to 3.0MM line Broadway between 81st Street and 34th Street.

im there wrote:

columbus running co. is bringing 20 or so people out to watch. that is roughly 1/1000 of 200,000.

Try 1/10,000.

Well, Wittenburg was in Boulder that day, too, so she probably had a hand in that ridiculously inflated claim of 10k.

smoove operator wrote:

there will likely have been more people in boulder watching the xc trials than there will be in central park actually watching the marathon trials. there a quite a few people in central park on any given weekend anyway ... i'm sure that these people will be counted as spectators.

If you want to see what 200-300,000 spectators looks like: check out the Head of the Charles pics from this weekend. Now that's a bunch of spectators.

I count 60 runners who shouldn't even be in this race. This isn't a traing camp - this is the Olympic Trials. Anyone who can't run under 2:20 has no business in this race. The trials should be for only those athletes who could possibly make the team- maybe only those sub 2:16!

Then give us a comment on the track and field trials. Who do you think fills the fields enough such that heats and semis are required?

They don't belong there either.

That's why the meet takes over a week. The standards need to be tougher.

If you qualified for the Olympic t and f trials would you go?

That's not the responsibility of the athletes, it's up to those who run the sport in USATF.

Whaa?

Responsibility? Umm. I asked who exactly is it filling up the lanes in the heats and first rounds and semis at the track trials? It's boys and girls who qualified but have no chance in he## of being top three never mind achieving the Oly A standard.

Generally it seems that if athletes qualify for the track trials they hidey ho it to the trials for the experience and the excitement. Same for men's marathon trials.

Garfield wrote:

Can someone do the math on the Thanksgiving Day Parade? Macy's/NYC claim 2.5MM to 3.0MM line Broadway between 81st Street and 34th Street.

Macy’s Parade 77th and Central Park West to Macy’s. 2.36 miles. Packed like sardines = one person every two feet

2.36 miles = 12460 feet.

Packed like sardines allow each person 2’ = 6230 people on each side or 12,460 people on both sides of the parade route.

Lower estimate of 2.5 million.

2,500,000/12460 = 200

For the Macy’s Day crowd estimates to be correct, people would have to packed along the parade route every 24 inches, 100 people deep on each side of the street. That’s impossible.

If the marathon course was packed shoulder to shoulder, seven deep for the entire 5 mile loop you would only have 184,800 spectators. If just 18,000 show up consider that to be an astronomically huge success. Hell will freeze over and bats will fly out of my ass on the same day before that happens.

We were going to fly there for the Trials, but then we realized it was the same day as Region.

Of course, it's an opportunity presented to them by the higher-ups at USATF.

NYC,

Would love to meet you. My team is meeting at the SW corner of the res at 7:30 tomorrow morning if you want to go for a run. The offer stands for anyone. We'll be running back and forth at first, and then later will probably just run around to wherever. Then its up to VCP for our race.

Take Care,

Michael