JOAQUIM CRUZ THE GREATEST 800 METER EVER

How many times under 1:44? Under 1:43? Under 1:42? How many undefeated seasons?

WHO'S HOLDING THE OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL? THANKS. J CRUZ

Brazilian Coelho wrote:

WHO'S HOLDING THE OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL? THANKS. J CRUZ

Not much you can do about the Danish INS.

Where's the WR? Multiple undefeated seasons? Seven of the top ten marks of all tiem?

click on "training camps"

what the f*** is that in his pants?

Brazilian Coelho wrote:

WHO'S HOLDING THE OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL? THANKS. J CRUZ

If best is measured in terms of gold medals its Snell - double the golds as Cruz

If best is measured in terms of time its Kipketer, with Coe 2nd

choose one of the above - you can't have it both ways or can't you understand this simple fact.

that is what you need to have to be an olympic champion and Wilson didn' have it. It's called BIG BALLS!!!

STOP STOP. PLZ LETS NOT TALK ABOUT LAB "DRUGGIE" RUNNERS!! MR. CRUZ WAS A NATURAL GOD MADE RUNNER. HE STILL BETTER THAN MR.SNELL. REMEMBER HE ALMOST GOT ANOTHER HIS SECOND GOLD IN SEOUL, IF WASN'T FOR THE EPO KING MR.ERENG, WICH BECAME CRIMINAL/RAPER LATER IN LIFE, AND MUST BE LOCKET UP RIGHT NOW, WHILE MR. CRUZ IN ENJOYING THE SUNNY SAN DIEGO BEACHES.

Thank you for throwing your credibility out the window.

Brazilan Coelho wrote:

STOP STOP. PLZ LETS NOT TALK ABOUT LAB "DRUGGIE" RUNNERS!! MR. CRUZ WAS A NATURAL GOD MADE RUNNER. HE STILL BETTER THAN MR.SNELL. REMEMBER HE ALMOST GOT ANOTHER HIS SECOND GOLD IN SEOUL, IF WASN'T FOR THE EPO KING MR.ERENG, WICH BECAME CRIMINAL/RAPER LATER IN LIFE, AND MUST BE LOCKET UP RIGHT NOW, WHILE MR. CRUZ IN ENJOYING THE SUNNY SAN DIEGO BEACHES.

We all know who should be locked up. Give it up - you are just so ignorant and Joaquim would be embarrassed to have an idiot like you vouching for him.

he still has the gol medal.......so on...so on...

1:41.11 Wilson Kipketer DEN 12 12 1972 1 Köln 24 08 1997

1:41.24 Wilson Kipketer 1r1 Zürich 13 08 1997

1:41.73 Sebastian Coe GBR 29 09 1956 1 Firenze 10 06 1981

1:41.73 Wilson Kipketer 1 Stockholm 07 07 1997

1:41.77 Joaquim Cruz BRA 12 03 1963 1 Köln 26 08 1984

1:41.83 Wilson Kipketer 1 Rieti 01 09 1996

1:42.17 Wilson Kipketer 1 Tokyo 16 09 1996

1:42.20 Wilson Kipketer 1 Bruxelles 22 08 1997

1:42.27 Wilson Kipketer 1 Bruxelles 03 09 1999

1:42.28 Sammy Koskei KEN 14 05 1961 2 Köln 26 08 1984

1:42.32 Wilson Kipketer 1 Rieti 08 09 2002

1:42.33 Sebastian Coe 1 Oslo 05 07 1979

1:42.34 Joaquim Cruz 1r1 Zürich 22 08 1984

1:42.34 Wilfred Bungei KEN 24 07 1980 2 Rieti 08 09 2002

1:42.41 Joaquim Cruz 1 Bruxelles 24 08 1984

1:42.47 Yuriy Borzakovskiy RUS 12 04 1981 1 Bruxelles 24 08 2001

1:42.49 Joaquim Cruz 1 Koblenz 28 08 1985

1:42.51 Wilson Kipketer 1 Nice 10 07 1996

1:42.52 Wilfred Bungei 1 Bruxelles 05 09 2003

1:42.54 Joaquim Cruz 1 Köln 25 08 1985

1:42.55 André Bucher SUI 19 10 1976 1r1 Zürich 17 08 2001

1:42.57 Wilson Kipketer 1 Monaco 04 08 1999

1:42.58 Vebjørn Rodal NOR 16 09 1972 1 Atlanta, GA 31 07 1996

1:42.59 Wilson Kipketer 1 Monaco 10 08 1996

1:42.60 Johnny Gray USA 19 06 1960 2r1 Koblenz 28 08 1985

1:42.61 Wilson Kipketer 1r1 Zürich 14 08 1996

1:42.61 Wilson Kipketer 1 Lausanne 02 07 1997

1:42.62 Patrick Ndururi KEN 12 01 1969 2r1 Zürich 13 08 1997

1:42.65 Johnny Gray 1 Zürich 17 08 1988

1:42.69 Hezekiél Sepeng RSA 30 06 1974 2 Bruxelles 03 09 1999

1:42.69 Japheth Kimutai KEN 20 12 1978 3 Bruxelles 03 09 1999

1:42.74 Hezekiél Sepeng 2 Atlanta, GA 31 07 1996

1:42.74 Wilson Kipketer 1 Bruxelles 30 08 2002

1:42.75 André Bucher 2 Bruxelles 24 08 2001

1:42.76 Wilson Kipketer 1 Oslo 05 07 1996

1:42.76 Japheth Kimutai 1r1 Stuttgart 19 07 1998

1:42.77 Wilson Kipketer 1 Bruxelles 23 08 1996

1:42.77 Wilson Kipketer 1 Monaco 16 08 1997

1:42.79 Frederick Onyancha KEN 25 12 1969 3 Atlanta, GA 31 07 1996

1:42.79 Wilson Kipketer 1r1 Roma 07 07 1999

1:42.80 Johnny Gray 1 New Orleans, LA 24 06 1992

1:42.81 Jean-Patrick Nduwimana BDI 09 05 1978 2r1 Zürich 17 08 2001

1:42.85 Norberto Téllez CUB 22 01 1972 4 Atlanta, GA 31 07 1996

1:42.87 Wilson Kipketer 1 Monaco 25 07 1995

1:42.87 Wilson Kipketer 1 Zürich 16 08 1995

1:42.87 Japheth Kimutai 1r1 Zürich 12 08 1998

1:42.88 Steve Cram GBR 14 10 1960 1r1 Zürich 21 08 1985

1:42.89 Mbulaeni Mulaudzi RSA 08 09 1980 2 Bruxelles 05 09 2003

1:42.90 Patrick Ndururi 1 Roma 14 07 1998

1:42.90 André Bucher 1 Monaco 20 07 2001

1:42.91 William Yiampoy KEN 17 05 1974 3 Rieti 08 09 2002

1:42.92 André Bucher 4 Bruxelles 03 09 1999

1:42.95 Vebjørn Rodal 2 Oslo 05 07 1996

1:42.96 Johnny Gray 1 Koblenz 29 08 1984

1:42.96 Wilfred Bungei 3r1 Zürich 17 08 2001

1:42.97 Peter Elliott GBR 09 10 1962 1 Sevilla 30 05 1990

1:42.98 Joaquim Cruz 1 Berlin 23 08 1985

1:42.98 Patrick Konchellah KEN 20 04 1968 2 Köln 24 08 1997

1:42.98 Wilson Kipketer 1 Fukuoka 13 09 1997

1:42.98 Japheth Kimutai 2r1 Roma 07 07 1999

JOAQUIM STILL THE BEST......."A TRUE OLYMPIC CHAMPION!!!"

Sorry, you're repetition of the same statement doesn't change the facts. It's clear that Kipketer's citizenship change to Denmark took away his greatest opportunity for an Olympic gold medal.

Cruz had one perfect season and one near perfect. Kipketer had three perfect seasons and three more near-perfect. That, and the depth of his performances, say it all.

How "perfect" can a runner be, without a Olympic gold medal?

Luis Alberto wrote:

How "perfect" can a runner be, without a Olympic gold medal?

Perfect has no variation. Any deviation from perfection and you're something less than perfect. Perfect meaning that he won all races contested/available to him.

1995

1:44.90 1 Kusoc Warszawa 16 Jun

1:44.67 1 Århus 29 Jun

1:43.98 1 Bislett Oslo 21 Jul

1:42.87 SB (1) 1 Herc Monaco 25 Jul

1:45.08 1 WC Göteborg 8 Aug

1:42.87 1rA Weltk Zürich 16 Aug

1:44.09 1 ASV Köln 18 Aug

1:44.38 1r2 VD Bruxelles 25 Aug

1996

1:44.06 1 Znam Moskva 7 Jun

1:43.13 1 EAA Byrkjelo 16 Jun

1:44.73 1 EAA Århus 20 Jun

1:44.33 1 ECp-2 Bergen 29 Jun

1:42.76 1 Bislett Oslo 5 Jul

1:42.51 1 Nikaïa Nice 10 Jul

1:42.59 1 Herc Monaco 10 Aug

1:42.61 1rA Weltk Zürich 14 Aug

1:42.77 1 VD Bruxelles 23 Aug

1:43.34 1 GP Berlin 30 Aug

1:41.83 SB (1) 1 GP II Rieti 1 Sep

1:42.17 1 Toto Tokyo 16 Sep

1997

1:48.49i 1s3 WC Paris 7 Mar

1:43.96i 1h5 WC Paris 7 Mar

1:42.67i WR PB (1) 1 WC Paris 9 Mar

1:43.54 1rA GGala Roma 5 Jun

1:44.86 1 Kuso Sopot 14 Jun

1:44.03 1 Gaz Paris 25 Jun

1:42.61 1rA Athletissima Lausanne 2 Jul

1:41.73 1rA DNG Stockholm 7 Jul

1:45.54 1q4 WC Athína 5 Aug

1:43.38 1 WC Athína 8 Aug

1:41.24 1rA WK Zürich 13 Aug

1:42.77 1 Herc Monaco 16 Aug

1:42.20 1 VD Bruxelles 22 Aug

1:41.11 WR PB (1) 1rA ASV Köln 24 Aug

1:42.98 1 GPF Fukuoka 13 Sep

Three years without losing a race -- three perfect seasons. I can only find one for Cruz. Please offer more up if I am missing something.

Watch these two World Championship races, and tell me that he still would not have won in the '96 Olympics. He did not lose 800s in his prime as the poster above has shown.

NO. OLYMPIC GAMES IS ANOTHER LEVEL. NEEDS A "TRUE CHAMPION TO WIN"

Too bad he wasn't afforded the opportunity at the peak of his powers.

a runner that HAS NOT won an olympic gold medal CAN NOT be named THE BEST. There's no way.