Runners also did cross training decades ago. I was aware of it when I was a kid. So it isn't new, even for runners. But the general picture is that his training is pretty light for a distance runner - no long runs - and essentially no different from what a lot of other youngsters do. There isn't anything in his training methods that points to his exceptional success.
Peter Coe would have likely thought adding in a significant amount of biking would have been detrimental wasting of injury. Name the runners of note, from decades ago that were doing significant amounts of aerobic cross training.
None of the Lydiarites were. That wasn’t Ryun’s training. Gordon Pirie, trained under Gerschler in the 50’s, even though excessive walking could be detrimental. You repeatedly show you are ignorant about the sport.
Must be a tough pill for Jakob to swallow that he was getting flogged on massive yardage as a child and now a phenom is coming through that will smash all his records and have better career longevity because he's body wasn't abused as a child.
Peter Coe would have likely thought adding in a significant amount of biking would have been detrimental wasting of injury. Name the runners of note, from decades ago that were doing significant amounts of aerobic cross training.
None of the Lydiarites were. That wasn’t Ryun’s training. Gordon Pirie, trained under Gerschler in the 50’s, even though excessive walking could be detrimental. You repeatedly show you are ignorant about the sport.
hey, Gordon Pirie, required reading, half amazing half crazy.
Coe did the cross training, and that is still cutting edge today.
Peter Coe can be forgiven for not getting it exactly right, the stresses that can cause injury, with redline stress within milers traning volumes, and over the top quality.
Both Coe and Ovett were compromised 800 runners with the miler volumes and 56 second lap adaptation.
that is if you wanted to run 48 49 400 pace.
they did all right though.
that's the what if, really if those two trained as sprinters more than milers.
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The late Bruce Tulloh wrote running is 85% talent, 10% mental and 5% training in his book Running in 40s, 50s, 60s.
Well Bruce was wrong on that one. If an Olympic champ does not run a single step for 4 years then a lot people on these boards will have a good chance of beating them were they to line up. Running performance is highly dependent on consistent training and doing the right kind of training for the athlete to get to their potential.
Runners also did cross training decades ago. I was aware of it when I was a kid. So it isn't new, even for runners. But the general picture is that his training is pretty light for a distance runner - no long runs - and essentially no different from what a lot of other youngsters do. There isn't anything in his training methods that points to his exceptional success.
Peter Coe would have likely thought adding in a significant amount of biking would have been detrimental wasting of injury. Name the runners of note, from decades ago that were doing significant amounts of aerobic cross training.
They mostly weren't. That's because coaches knew even back then that running was the best training for distance running. It's still the case today.
Must be a tough pill for Jakob to swallow that he was getting flogged on massive yardage as a child and now a phenom is coming through that will smash all his records and have better career longevity because he's body wasn't abused as a child.
(1) Whether Ruthe surpasses all or even any of Jakob's records remains to be seen. (2) Why do you imply that Jakob's body was abused in his childhood?
Must be a tough pill for Jakob to swallow that he was getting flogged on massive yardage as a child and now a phenom is coming through that will smash all his records and have better career longevity because he's body wasn't abused as a child.
(1) Whether Ruthe surpasses all or even any of Jakob's records remains to be seen. (2) Why do you imply that Jakob's body was abused in his childhood?
OK, Ruthe already has surpassed some or one of Jakob's youth records.
I think people forget, this is only his running. And just LOGGED miles. Where he is from is extremely active by necessity. His day to day life involves an hour of cross training just naturally. Over half the country is extremely walkable and most of the other half is basically nature regions. We do not live like this in the US. At all
Talent is everything in the shorter distances, with the right training, and a the right talent. The youth can run faster than ever in this information era where training is no secret. 10,000 up, that's where you can find more and more improvement. Sure he can run 3:48, but it was hard for him to crack 13:50 in the 5k. You don't choose the distance, the distance chooses you.
The late Bruce Tulloh wrote running is 85% talent, 10% mental and 5% training in his book Running in 40s, 50s, 60s.
Well Bruce was wrong on that one. If an Olympic champ does not run a single step for 4 years then a lot people on these boards will have a good chance of beating them were they to line up. Running performance is highly dependent on consistent training and doing the right kind of training for the athlete to get to their potential.
And think how many of us would beat an Olympic champ if he had a leg amputated. Tulloh isn't saying you don't need to train, just that there are other things that are more important. Nic Bideau once said that training is the least important thing he does for his runners.
Must be a tough pill for Jakob to swallow that he was getting flogged on massive yardage as a child and now a phenom is coming through that will smash all his records and have better career longevity because he's body wasn't abused as a child.
That may not end up being true. We dont know whether or not sam will even be in the sport by his early 20's.I dont believe sam will have a longer career than jakob because i dont believe 16 year old bodies are designed to run 3.48 miles. He's done it,but the price may be steep later on.
Well Bruce was wrong on that one. If an Olympic champ does not run a single step for 4 years then a lot people on these boards will have a good chance of beating them were they to line up. Running performance is highly dependent on consistent training and doing the right kind of training for the athlete to get to their potential.
And think how many of us would beat an Olympic champ if he had a leg amputated. Tulloh isn't saying you don't need to train, just that there are other things that are more important. Nic Bideau once said that training is the least important thing he does for his runners.
Disagree. If you don't train at all you won't be competitive in high level distance running no matter how talented you are. Ruthe obviously has a lot of natural ability but how many 16 year olds have similar ability but are not involved in distance running? We don't get to see that because they have not been training.
In addition, following the right type of training adapted to the athlete is of extreme importance. I've seen 4 min milers change coaches and go to a crappy coach and their performance level collapsed to around 4 mins for 1500m over about 1 or 2 seasons. Similarly, I've seen guys running 30 min 10ks change their training and again fall apart to around 33 mins for 10k. In all cases the guys were training "hard" without breaks due to injuries but the training was not adapted to their strengths. So you can have talent but if you don't train that talent will never manisfest itself and if you don't train optimally your talent will not be expressed at anything close to its full potential.
I think people forget, this is only his running. And just LOGGED miles. Where he is from is extremely active by necessity. His day to day life involves an hour of cross training just naturally. Over half the country is extremely walkable and most of the other half is basically nature regions. We do not live like this in the US. At all
What a load of drivel. Most New Zealanders live in cities and most have cars. This is not the Namibian desert. An "hour of cross training daily" - that's getting out of bed, getting off the couch and getting in the car. Not sure if it amounts to an hour.
Well Bruce was wrong on that one. If an Olympic champ does not run a single step for 4 years then a lot people on these boards will have a good chance of beating them were they to line up. Running performance is highly dependent on consistent training and doing the right kind of training for the athlete to get to their potential.
And think how many of us would beat an Olympic champ if he had a leg amputated. Tulloh isn't saying you don't need to train, just that there are other things that are more important. Nic Bideau once said that training is the least important thing he does for his runners.
No one succeeds without training and hard training. That is even the supremely talented. Elliott long ago talked about that.