Another 1:54 and another global podium. Keely haters, what's it going to take?
not a hater, but she still doesn't have that WC gold Mu already had way back in 2022.
The 2021 Mu with the new type of bicarbs would've won 1:53 FTW today.
If Keely gets bronze every year for the next 10 years and we never see Athing Mu again are we still going to be talking about how Athing has one WC gold, though?
not a hater, but she still doesn't have that WC gold Mu already had way back in 2022.
The 2021 Mu with the new type of bicarbs would've won 1:53 FTW today.
If Keely gets bronze every year for the next 10 years and we never see Athing Mu again are we still going to be talking about how Athing has one WC gold, though?
You'd take never winning over being #1 ? Idk about that.
Hodgkinson Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze Diamond League wins: 8 Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu Olympics: 1 gold World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze Diamond League wins: 3 Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 17 Times 1:54.61 Keely 1:54.74 Keely 1:54.91 Keely 1:54.97 Mu 1:55.04 Mu 1:55.19 Keely 1:55.21 Mu 1:55.69 Keeley 1:55.77 Keely 1:55.78 Keely 1:56.07 Mu 1:56.30 Mu 1:56.34 Keely 1:56.38 Keely 1:56.72 Keely 1:56.86 Keely 1:57.01 Mu
Hodgkinson Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze Diamond League wins: 8 Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu Olympics: 1 gold World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze Diamond League wins: 3 Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 17 Times 1:54.61 Keely 1:54.74 Keely 1:54.91 Keely 1:54.97 Mu 1:55.04 Mu 1:55.19 Keely 1:55.21 Mu 1:55.69 Keeley 1:55.77 Keely 1:55.78 Keely 1:56.07 Mu 1:56.30 Mu 1:56.34 Keely 1:56.38 Keely 1:56.72 Keely 1:56.86 Keely 1:57.01 Mu
Show this to westsouthrunner who is clinging to that one WC gold for dear life.
Show this to westsouthrunner who is clinging to that one WC gold for dear life.
Ok. Grants TWO Olympic bronze or Cole's 1 gold? Pretty sure there's already a thread about this. I just wanna see you eat your words.
2 golds always trump 1. Simple
What has Mu (same age) done lately? Hopefully neither have finished their careers, so no point judging until they are finished.
Cole is Better than Fisher (no contest) - he won last year (1500 Gold) and this year (5000). Jakob won 5000 last year, but not 1500, and won neither this year, and is a year older than Cole. Right now Hocker is better than Ingebrigtsen, although Jakob has run faster in everything that counts, and some that don't (2000, 3000).Again, no point in judging until their careers are over.
All I know is Keely ran great comsidering how much time ahe missed and how few races she had going into this year’s WCs. Mu was given every chance to get back into it and failed miserably. That said, I’d like to see both them race again in top form.
Ok. Grants TWO Olympic bronze or Cole's 1 gold? Pretty sure there's already a thread about this. I just wanna see you eat your words.
2 golds always trump 1. Simple
What has Mu (same age) done lately? Hopefully neither have finished their careers, so no point judging until they are finished.
Cole is Better than Fisher (no contest) - he won last year (1500 Gold) and this year (5000). Jakob won 5000 last year, but not 1500, and won neither this year, and is a year older than Cole. Right now Hocker is better than Ingebrigtsen, although Jakob has run faster in everything that counts, and some that don't (2000, 3000).Again, no point in judging until their careers are over.
They're so similar that's why a lot of people like comparing them. And as of right now one of them has two golds one of them has one the way people talk on here about gold medals especially Olympic ones. Two always trumps one right?
See what I did there 😂 no matter how you look at it, Mu has two Olympics golds. Keely doesn't.
Mu has two individual golds, Keely doesn't.
Also, they have already both done a ton in the sport. Why wait until they retire to compare them? They are the best.
Ok. Grants TWO Olympic bronze or Cole's 1 gold? Pretty sure there's already a thread about this. I just wanna see you eat your words.
2 golds always trump 1. Simple
What has Mu (same age) done lately? Hopefully neither have finished their careers, so no point judging until they are finished.
Cole is Better than Fisher (no contest) - he won last year (1500 Gold) and this year (5000). Jakob won 5000 last year, but not 1500, and won neither this year, and is a year older than Cole. Right now Hocker is better than Ingebrigtsen, although Jakob has run faster in everything that counts, and some that don't (2000, 3000).Again, no point in judging until their careers are over.
And cmon. A what have you done lately response on a thread comparing entire careers up to date. How how disingenuous do you want to be?
Hodgkinson Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze Diamond League wins: 8 Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu Olympics: 1 gold World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze Diamond League wins: 3 Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 17 Times 1:54.61 Keely 1:54.74 Keely 1:54.91 Keely 1:54.97 Mu 1:55.04 Mu 1:55.19 Keely 1:55.21 Mu 1:55.69 Keeley 1:55.77 Keely 1:55.78 Keely 1:56.07 Mu 1:56.30 Mu 1:56.34 Keely 1:56.38 Keely 1:56.72 Keely 1:56.86 Keely 1:57.01 Mu
Keely won the actual Olympics not the covid Olympics against weak competition. Plus she's faster and has more wins. Mu embarrasses herself every time she races now. No sure why this is up for debate.
I didn't have time to read all 5 pages of responses, but has anyone mentioned that Mu ran her times in the pre-bicarb era?
Times in the 800m have improved significantly on both the mens and womens side since bicarb became a thing. It's well known that Keely bicarbs. It's likely that Mu's PRs and best performances were without bicarb. With bicarb, Mu would probably have broken the WR.
Of the two 23 yr-olds, who has the better resumé of all time as it stands now in the summer of 2025??
Upvote for Keely
Downvote for Mu
(Sidenote: BroJos, an embedded poll option would be a great addition for these boards)
Well lets see, neither has worked a day in their life and probably have no education. Keely looks better, albeit not supermodel tier, but that makes her more marketable (aka employable).
Well, Keely was amazing in nabbing a WC bronze last summer after literally missing the entire season up to that point. A better discussion from here on out would be examining who has tripped and/or knocked over the most opponents, ruining their chances in races. I’ll go wtih Mu, as she eventually knocked herself out of the picture.
I didn't have time to read all 5 pages of responses, but has anyone mentioned that Mu ran her times in the pre-bicarb era?
Times in the 800m have improved significantly on both the mens and womens side since bicarb became a thing. It's well known that Keely bicarbs. It's likely that Mu's PRs and best performances were without bicarb. With bicarb, Mu would probably have broken the WR.
Glad you bumped this. It is not even close anymore. Mu got in at the right time before Keely and others began to "arrive." Her professional career effectively lasted for only a little over two years, from June 2021 (Olympic Trials) through September 2023 (DL Final). I actually think Ajee' Wilson may have had a better overall career due to her longevity and five medals.
Hodgkinson Olympics: 1 gold, 1 silver World Outdoor Champs: 2 silvers, 1 bronze World Indoor Champs: 1 gold Diamond League wins: 8 Diamond League Final wins: 2* (Mu got a wild card for the Final and won but Keely the DL for the year)
Mu Olympics: 1 gold World Outdoor Champs: 1 gold, 1 bronze World Indoor Champs: None Diamond League wins: 3 Diamond League Final wins: 1* (see above)
Best 23 Times (16 Keely, 7 Mu) 1:54.61 Keely 1:54.74 Keely 1:54.87i Keely (Indoor WR) 1:54.91 Keely 1:54.97 Mu 1:55.04 Mu 1:55.19 Keely 1:55.21 Mu 1:55.30i Keely 1:55.69 Keely 1:55.77 Keely 1:55.78 Keely 1:55.88 Keely 1:56.07 Mu 1:56.30 Mu 1:56.33i Keely 1:56.34 Keely 1:56.38 Keely 1:56.53 Keely 1:56.61 Mu 1:56.72 Keely 1:56.86 Keely 1:57.01 Mu