Robbed of her prime by a tainted burrito. A true travesty of justice.
"Shelby Houlihan is having a DISASTER outdoor season"
Hmmm...
I'm calling out some so-called "big names" on these boards (including you Mr. Thoughtsleader), who wrote Shelby off a month ago. You can go back and check the OP and what I posted.
1. She was in the Jerry's Nike group. No culture of doping in that group.
2. Nandralone is just such a stupid drug to take if you want to avoid a positive. It stays in your system forever, it's easily detected and it doesn't help distance running much. It just doesn't make sense why she would take it in the year of 2020.
3. She wouldn't even wear early edition super spikes because she felt they were cheating. That's how hardcore she was.
5. She was dating Matt Centrowitz at the time and he lived with her. He vouched for her no doping. By transitive properties, believing Shelby is a doper is like believeing Matt C is a doper. And I really don't believe Matt C is a doper.
1. Ah yes. There’s never been any accusations about Bowerman. Fancy Bear leaks totally didn’t happen and didn’t include any prominent Bowerman runners. They’ve always been so squeaky clean.
2. Correct, which is why blaming it on a burrito is utterly insane. Everyone here always likes to use the scientific word “Nandralone”. She tested positives for frickin DECA. You don’t “accidentally” take DECA.
3. Except she literally did. She was training in the OG 4%s the moment they were released.
5. ah yes Centrowitz. Former Oregon Project runner…another super squeaky clean program. I’m saying saying Centro was doping, but of course he’s gonna defend the girl he was living with at the time. Cmon now.
Give me a break.
4. There were no WADA hearings. There was only 1 hearing, and that was in front of CAS.
6. Irrelevant here, since it wasn't a trace amount and A and B test matched each other well with 5.x ng/ml.
Celebrating pedestrian times when the women's race will undoubtedly be run more than a min faster is a choice.
Her 'comeback' isn't so much a travesty to us women's running as the fact that this wasn't even 14:30.
Championship races aren’t won with PBs. Strategy is king.
Sit and kick is a strategy... so it outrunning your opponents from the gun.
Let's be real. Andrews has the only chance of us women to medal, which is a slim one, but I would have expected a faster race from others including Kelati, which could have put it out of Shelby's hands to make the team considering she ran much faster at pre.
How is she a headcase? because she came up in 6th place at Rome? that goes back to my original point. No one on the team can actually medal at worlds.
But Andrews also beat Hull and came 2nd at Millrose. I don't see any facts that support your position. Slow races aren't her thing. Hence again it's a shiitty strategy to sit and kick when you can't win.
6. Irrelevant here, since it wasn't a trace amount and A and B test matched each other well with 5.x ng/ml.
You're right. It wasn't a trace amount. In fact, it was substantially higher than a trace amount. So that absolutely rules out micro-dosing as a possible cause.
So there's only two possibilities left. Either A) she was full-on macro-dosing knowing she would be caught the very next time she was tested, which was every few weeks. That's like walking into your neighborhood bank, where everyone knows your name, and pulling out a gun and robbing it. Or B) somebody tainted her food or beverage.
6. Irrelevant here, since it wasn't a trace amount and A and B test matched each other well with 5.x ng/ml.
You're right. It wasn't a trace amount. In fact, it was substantially higher than a trace amount. So that absolutely rules out micro-dosing as a possible cause.
So there's only two possibilities left. Either A) she was full-on macro-dosing knowing she would be caught the very next time she was tested, which was every few weeks. That's like walking into your neighborhood bank, where everyone knows your name, and pulling out a gun and robbing it. Or B) somebody tainted her food or beverage.
B) is the only plausible explanation.
Floyd Landis was micro dosing and tested positive. Making apologies for Houlihan is almost enough to make me side with Astro. Are we to ignore that she rarely competed? How about her physical appearance? She looked more like an MMA fighter than a runner. And the drug she tested positive for is what gave her that kick to suddenly beat Jenny Simpson and others when she never shown that kind of talent in her college or professional career.
Amby Burfoot had it right. They have all figured out how to beat testing at competition. The only time they get caught is out of competition.
6. Irrelevant here, since it wasn't a trace amount and A and B test matched each other well with 5.x ng/ml.
You're right. It wasn't a trace amount. In fact, it was substantially higher than a trace amount. So that absolutely rules out micro-dosing as a possible cause.
So there's only two possibilities left. Either A) she was full-on macro-dosing knowing she would be caught the very next time she was tested, which was every few weeks. That's like walking into your neighborhood bank, where everyone knows your name, and pulling out a gun and robbing it. Or B) somebody tainted her food or beverage.
B) is the only plausible explanation.
There is absolutely no evidence for "B" - so, no. She would have likely thought the drug was masked. In any case, dopers take risks and the risks are usually small. Most aren't caught.
How about her physical appearance? She looked more like an MMA fighter than a runner.
That's mostly a result of low body fat percentage. Lots of people would look the same way if they reduced body fat down to 2 or 3 percent.
But you're missing the point. If she were micro-dosing, then she would not have had such a large amount of nandro in her system. So she absolutely was not micro-dosing. So if she wasn't micro-dosing, then you must think she was macro-dosing. But that doesn't sense because she would have known she'd be instantly caught and banned. People do not behave that way.
And even if you won't admit all that, and you still think she was macro-dosing, then she would have at least dodged the test like Salwa Naser. Try to grasp that. If she was macro-dosing, she would have dodged the drug test. But she didn't. The only plausible explanation is that someone tampered with her water bottle, or something like it.
And furthermore, if she were macro-dosing, she would have thought up, in advance, a much better cover story then the tainted burrito, which everyone agrees is ridiculous. The ridiculousness of the burrito alibi proves her innocence.
It was interesting watching her wander from person to person after the race.
yeah NBC was trying to keep her win on the low-key-funny Lewis Johnson interviews most of the trials winners including the men's 5000m and there was no Shelby interview unless i missed it...
Very noticeable omission. They cut to commercial and never talked about it again.
And furthermore, if she were macro-dosing, she would have thought up, in advance, a much better cover story then the tainted burrito, which everyone agrees is ridiculous. The ridiculousness of the burrito alibi proves her innocence.
It was a low amount, neither a trace amount nor a macro amount. As many people have pointed out during the last four years, and you can verify in the various published diagrams, a few hours later and she'd been below the allowed threshold. Next morning, the nandrolone would have been undetectable, if not completely gone.
Looks more like a small error in dosing (weighing/"halving" the pill unevenly), or coincidentally taking the larger dosage of her roomate, or too much greed with bad judgment, or dehydration because of ladies night, or the bad luck that AIU showed up at 6 am instead of USADA at 10 am, etc.
Finally, "everyone agrees is ridiculous" is evidently incorrect. Where have you been all the time? In any case, your "argument" of a "better cover story" could be applied to all banned dopers who didn't get away with their cover story, which shows that it doesn't hold water.
How about her physical appearance? She looked more like an MMA fighter than a runner.
That's mostly a result of low body fat percentage. Lots of people would look the same way if they reduced body fat down to 2 or 3 percent.
But you're missing the point. If she were micro-dosing, then she would not have had such a large amount of nandro in her system. So she absolutely was not micro-dosing. So if she wasn't micro-dosing, then you must think she was macro-dosing. But that doesn't sense because she would have known she'd be instantly caught and banned. People do not behave that way.
And even if you won't admit all that, and you still think she was macro-dosing, then she would have at least dodged the test like Salwa Naser. Try to grasp that. If she was macro-dosing, she would have dodged the drug test. But she didn't. The only plausible explanation is that someone tampered with her water bottle, or something like it.
"Macro-dosing", as you put it mostly isn't caught. Only 1% of tests return a positive. Actual doping is known to be much higher than that. According to antidoping, "only the dumb or the careless get caught". So which one of those was she?