Said Aouita's record as an athlete

No we shall play it real:

Aouita is better than Sebastian Coe in the 1500m

Don't play this game of advancing a rival of a lower profil.

You really should try to get your facts correct.

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Where is this list of 85?

Cram has had a unique season in 85, if you try to put this down you just show you can't taken seriously.

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I'm talking about the athlete of the year claimed by Deanouk.

No. It's your job to check your "facts".

It's obvious your not a single inch better than this laughable British fan boys who since years change any facts to their liking.

And you who are you hiding in a coward way within an anonymous user name?

Best performances from 1982 to 1989

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Aouita run 3:30.63 in August 1989!!!!!!!!!!!!

Performances

3:30.63 for Aouita in 1989

A list which has 1 entry! Congratulation.

Maybe you should see this.

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Aouita the first and unique African runner that was put in T&F Athlete of the year during the 80s.

The list for 85 is really impressive.

Aouita was the AOY in 85, but for sure Cram also has had credentials for this title.

It's silly to point on a 50.5 last lap after an extremely slow 1st lap as something unique when someone has run at a higher speed for the full race. It's really not that hard to comprehend.

2015: Rudishe didn't speed up with one lap to go, but with maybe 250m to go. His last 200 was 24.34, that's some significant mark. And he led from gun to tape. You would point on this over and over again if the runner in question was named Coe or Ovett, but here it's not helpful for your argumentation, so be quiet about it seems legit to you.
It's also completely silly to compare the best performance by one athlete with some performance of someone else far from his best. But still, it's not that clear which performance is superior.

Ovett ran a great race in Moscow, but not that otherworldly as you and your friends always want to suggest.

Olympic 800m winning times:

1976: 1:43:50

1980: 1:45.40

1984: 1:43.00

1988: 1:43.45

1992: 1:43.66

1996: 1:42.58

2000: 1:45.08

2004: 1:44.45

2008: 1:44.65

2012: 1:40.91

2016: 1:42.15

2021: 1:45.06

So, since 1976 all are faster than the 1980 one, with two exceptions significantly faster. So comparing some split times is not such a big help. Most of those winning performances are superior to Ovett's. While not running such a bad race, Coe clearly would have beaten Ovett. And he was not a sub 1:42 runner then.

Aouita lost to Cram in 85, the only top name he dared to face that season. He only faced Cram in Nice because everybody thought Cram was injured again and going to be below his best (he had missed some time with calf problems again and had been beaten by McKean over 800m).

Cram broke the Mile WR in a real race again Coe and Gonzalez (easing down at the end). He also raced Coe at the start of the season over 800m.

Aouita finally broke the 5000m WR (if Moorcroft had had pacers in 82, he would have kept the WR until the EPO era). He tried to break Cram's mile WR but failed.

After destroying Cruz over 800m, and clearly in 3:27 1500m form, Crammy was going to retake the 1500m WR, but sadly got injured again.

Aouita had a great season in 85, but Crammy had a better one and also beat Aouita in a race (when Cram was not yet at his peak). And I don't know what L'innoculater is saying when claiming Cram broke one WR and Aouita two. Cram broke the 1500, mile, and 2000m WRs. He would also have beaten Coe's 1000m WR if not for the fact he was running solo on a windy and cold Gateshead track.

You can be very pedantic can't you!

I referenced the 76 victory for Ovett over Boit to illustrate that even at his (Boit's) best, Ovett could be dangerous. Of course Boit was better than Ovett over 800m in '75/76. It's a pretty obvious point.

The fact that after 76 Boit never beat Ovett again over 800 or 1500m (until 85) shows that certainly by 79 Ovett was better than Boit over both distances. Thus, going back to the original point I was arguing (before you derailed it into something else), there were no obvious Kenyan threats over 1500m in the Moscow Olympics had they been there! Over 800m, Maina would have been in the mix for sure. But Kenya wasn't the force they are now in 1980.

You don't know much about the history of the sport do you?

Cram broke 3 (not 1) World Records in 1985 - 1500m, 1 mile and 2000m - in 19 days.

He also beat the Olympic champions over 800m (Cruz), 1500m (Coe) and 5000m (Aouita) that season.

T&FN is not the only source of World Athletes of the Year. AW had Cram as World Athlete of Year in 85.

And you who are you hiding in a coward way within an anonymous user name?
Or are you that stupid that you don't realize "L'innoculateur" is as anonymous as bvcxyasdf?

Lol.

Coe - double Olympic Champion (only man ever to achieve this);

- World Cup silver, European silver;

- 1 WR over 1500m, 3 x mile WR holder (only man to break mile 3 times since WW2) - pb 3:29.77 (when past his best, only 0.31 outside Aouita's pb);

- fastest in the world - 79 & 86 (that's a span of 8 seasons), in World Top 10 rankings over span of 11 years (79 - 89)

Aouita - World Championship bronze, Mediterranean gold x 2;

- 1 WR over 1500m, - pb 3:29.46

- fastest in world - 84, 85, 87 (span of 4 seasons), in World Top 10 rankings over span of 9 years (83 -91).

In terms of Olympic medals, world records and longevity, Coe comes out on top.

Thank you!

Both had great seasons in 85. Personally I think T&FN could have chosen Cram or Aouita as World Athelete of the year; Cram beat him in their only race, but I can see why Aouita got it. To break WR's at 1500m and 5000m was incredible and I think unique for being achievd in the same season. And certainly the way Aouita ran the 1500m in Nice (wide on a few bends), he was certainly capable of much quicker that night.