Bowerman Mile: My Unhinged Take

objectiveobserver wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

You have no way of knowing that. It's more likely they are both where they are from years of quality training. It's straight up simpleton thinking that somehow Jakob was not preparing much for this race. He's been foaming at the mouth for revenge since Josh snatched his lollipop in Budapest. Dude was highly motivated to come in sharp and ready, and that he did! Notice how nobody is trying to downplay Jakob's results? He had an excellent race.

But first things first - we acknowledge the winner and his accomplishment. Josh crushed it and showed everyone again why his WC win was no fluke. We don't know his 1500 ceiling yet as it's early in the season. He was focused on the 3k indoors and all we know is he's a stronger runner now who can more easily hold a fast pace, and shows up ready to execute. Josh has elevated his fitness and mental game to a point that he can no longer be a next guy that you just ignore. If he were to run the fastest 1500 this year I would not be surprised. And as far as the Olympic 1500, the odds have to be in his favor right now vs Jakob. Sure, Jakob has some time to improve, but even getting back to 2k and 2-mile WR shape isn't likely going to cut it for a gold unless he gets lucky. Until I see signs of an improved kick or that he can solo a 3:26, my money is on Kerr.

Troll, not long ago you was quite certain that Jakob´s season would be damaged coming back from a serious achilles injury. You was not right as I dared to predict.

But now you have taken the opposite position that Jakob has almost peaked for this season opener.

If Jakob comes back to his 2000m WR shape he is (at least at paper) 3:25.65 in the 1500m and low 3:42 in the mile.

Considering he possibly is relatively stronger in the 2000m than in the shorter distances I will cautiously say he was low 3:26 in the 1500m and mid 3:42 in the mile in his Brüssel 2023 shape.

sp2 wrote:

Maxwell Gem wrote:

Winners:

Jakob - You see how happy he was after the race? You ever think you’d see him so happy about second place? For all this talk about Kerrs kick, Jakob didn’t lose a step on him the last lap. He didn’t pull into lane 2 on the home stretch thinking Kerr would kick it in, only to find out that WAS Kerrs kick. Jakob is not worried and will be the clear winner in Paris as the rounds will do Kerr no favors

Gourley - Been running 6 weeks after lots of injury, overtaking Wightman at the line. 6 Weeks. If a Brit wins in Paris, it will be Gourley.

Kessler - Had he finished, it would have been back with Hocker and would have hurt his confidence. DNFing p*ssed him off and the dude will be HUNGRY. My pick to win the US trials.

Losers:

Kerr - Dude barely beat a half-trained Jakob but celebrated like he had gone Super Saiyan. Dude has never been on fire like this and the only thing growing more than his confidence is his head. Jakob will grind him down on lap three in the Paris final and he’ll poop the bed to finish outside the medals after burning out from a long stretch of firing on all cylinders

Teare - Yeah, Yeah , Yeah, he TRIPPED (didn’t fall), so there is an excuse except for the fact the guy that actually fell, while running his off event, got up and beat him. Teare needs to focus on the 5K and drop the 1500. If he doesn’t, he’ll miss the team in both.

Nuguse - This guy is a wimp. I don’t know how else to say it. Even interviewers know it because they ask him about Pokémon and Taylor Swift and he clearly gets more excited about that than running. He’s actually worse than Athing Mu who also doesn’t like running because at least she refuses to do it most of the year unlike Yared who is probably too scared to tell anybody no.

Thats my take. Maxwell Gem, OUT.

Great. Yet another pompous Bad-Wigins-style a**hole troll, who will now proceed to spend hours of every day polluting the MB with his dim-witted garbage.

Only good thing about this one is he's *registered*, so we can bid him goodbye.

Bye now, Buddy.

Trollminator wrote:

objectiveobserver wrote:

Troll, not long ago you was quite certain that Jakob´s season would be damaged coming back from a serious achilles injury. You was not right as I dared to predict.

But now you have taken the opposite position that Jakob has almost peaked for this season opener.

If Jakob comes back to his 2000m WR shape he is (at least at paper) 3:25.65 in the 1500m and low 3:42 in the mile.

Considering he possibly is relatively stronger in the 2000m than in the shorter distances I will cautiously say he was low 3:26 in the 1500m and mid 3:42 in the mile in his Brüssel 2023 shape.

I've taken no such positions. I *speculated* that his injury would throw him off and I was not wrong. He missed the indoor season and presumably lost some of his edge. He has clearly proven now that his fitness is not far from what we saw last year. I'm amazed. Look, at the end of the day for him to secure gold he's going to have to solo a 3:26... ain't happening in a final.

objectiveobserver wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I've taken no such positions. I *speculated* that his injury would throw him off and I was not wrong. He missed the indoor season and presumably lost some of his edge. He has clearly proven now that his fitness is not far from what we saw last year. I'm amazed. Look, at the end of the day for him to secure gold he's going to have to solo a 3:26... ain't happening in a final.

I think he will take the gold if he can run a low 3:27. Which isn´t unreasonable according my former post.

But it might change dependent of how Kerr and Nuguse improve the next 2 months.

But we will know more after DL Oslo tomorrow. Last year Jakob improved with more than 4.5 sec from DL Rabat to DL Oslo. It will be promising if he can replicate his 3:27.95 from last year tomorrow. That will be an improvement of about 1 sec from his Bowerman Mile which converts to high 3:28.