Absolutely. And a little bit later Clarke, than Rono, than Ondieki, than Geb, than Bekele, than Cheptegei. But they won't stop here. Sub 26 just a matter of time. In 1000 years, they will run faster than light. IF they keep improving like they did in recent years.
They don't have to improve to sub-26 to show they are doping. Sub-30 did that.
No, they weren't. They were astonished that an athlete could front-run to a world record in an Olympic final with no one else in sight. It was ****ing ridiculous. And obvious. Like Chebet's run. It's the track equivalent of pro wrestling.
All the others were clean, yes.
I wouldn't bet on the last runner to be clean. But any Kenyan or Ethiopian is glowing so much no one needs pacing lights.
Absolutely. And a little bit later Clarke, than Rono, than Ondieki, than Geb, than Bekele, than Cheptegei. But they won't stop here. Sub 26 just a matter of time. In 1000 years, they will run faster than light. IF they keep improving like they did in recent years.
They don't have to improve to sub-26 to show they are doping. Sub-30 did that.
McColgan 30:00.86
Radcliffe 30:01.09
Both might be clean? If they further would (have) improve(d) by 1(2) seconds they have to dope?
I have not said there will be no progress in sports; there will be. But it goes beyond "progress" to see women running faster than great male athletes of the past who were legends of the sport. Anyone who understands differences between male and female physiology will understand that. It is one of the arguments today against intersex and trans athletes competing in women's events.
The Earth turns, clicking off laps like no athlete can, yet the athletic gods of one's youth are never overthrown.
I have not said there will be no progress in sports; there will be. But it goes beyond "progress" to see women running faster than great male athletes of the past who were legends of the sport. Anyone who understands differences between male and female physiology will understand that. It is one of the arguments today against intersex and trans athletes competing in women's events.
The Earth turns, clicking off laps like no athlete can, yet the athletic gods of one's youth are never overthrown.
So it's normal that women can now run faster than the great male runners of yesteryear but it is unfair for intersex and trans athletes to compete against women because of the advantages in being male.
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The Earth turns, clicking off laps like no athlete can, yet the athletic gods of one's youth are never overthrown.
So it's normal that women can now run faster than the great male runners of yesteryear but it is unfair for intersex and trans athletes to compete against women because of the advantages in being male.
Which time should be forbidden to run for women? OK, clearly sub 30. What about sub 31 - still allowed? What would you do with the women who run too fast?
So it's normal that women can now run faster than the great male runners of yesteryear but it is unfair for intersex and trans athletes to compete against women because of the advantages in being male.
Which time should be forbidden to run for women? OK, clearly sub 30. What about sub 31 - still allowed? What would you do with the women who run too fast?
Think it through. Is there no point in which you would say natural human limits are likely reached, including limits determined by sex?
Which time should be forbidden to run for women? OK, clearly sub 30. What about sub 31 - still allowed? What would you do with the women who run too fast?
Think it through. Is there no point in which you would say natural human limits are likely reached, including limits determined by sex?
Impossible to know where this point is, neveranswerstrong.
Think it through. Is there no point in which you would say natural human limits are likely reached, including limits determined by sex?
Impossible to know where this point is, neveranswerstrong.
It isn't impossible unless perhaps you want to do it to the second in a distance race. There will be a ball-park, that informed judgement will tell you is within or beyond natural capacity. Unfortunately, the prevalence of doping in sports has changed the popular perception of what is "natural". 29min for a woman to run 10k isn't.
None of those got popped. But, Olympic champions did (Sumgong + Kiprop), and world record holders (Kipsang, Kiptum, Kipruto) and lots of major marathon winners (Boston, London). Remember that only a small fraction of dopers ever get caught.
