PS. He should give Fisher a ton of credit as he made the pace. If I was Grant, I would have maybe considered trying to outkick Kerr. That's what Fisher needs to work on anyway, right?
I don't think trying to outkick the 1500m world champion would've been the best of plans.
Fisher gave himself the best chance of winning, by using his strength, and driving off the front for the last mile. It just turned out that Kerr was strong enough to follow.
Yup 6 seconds is an eternity. Kerr would have been close to 50 metres in JI dust when he ran 7:54.
For so many who consider themselves knowledgeable about running it is staggering how many here don't know that indoor records are always slower than outdoor records. They aren't comparable.
Well he's said he's listened to the podcast (or at least seen highlight son youtube), so I don't think it's crazy to wonder if he occasionally reads the boards. But the question was rhetorical, I'm wondering if he saw the race and what he thinks of it.
Call us when he runs 7:54 like Jakob did outdoors. Or any other meaningful time.
So why doesn't the 7.54 runner have the indoor record?
this is a goal that Kerr set several months back. Jakob, like most, doesn't base his winter training around hitting a mid winter peak. indoor tracks aren't slower. they just have races at the wrong time of year for most people's goals.
PS. He should give Fisher a ton of credit as he made the pace. If I was Grant, I would have maybe considered trying to outkick Kerr. That's what Fisher needs to work on anyway, right?
Yeah, jeez, Grant probably never even thought about trying to win. He really needs to work on the mental game.
So why doesn't the 7.54 runner have the indoor record?
this is a goal that Kerr set several months back. Jakob, like most, doesn't base his winter training around hitting a mid winter peak. indoor tracks aren't slower. they just have races at the wrong time of year for most people's goals.
Rubbish. All of it. Kerr doesn't train to peak indoors. Most top northern hemisphere runners will compete indoors over the winter. That includes Jakob - when he isn't injured. Indoors must matter enough to him that has two wrs on the surface. Indoor tracks are slower because they are far shorter than outdoor tracks which is why all indoor records are slower than outdoor records and always have been.
The 1500 (held by Jakob) and mile wrs are over 4 seconds slower than the outdoor records. That suggests that Kerr's indoor 2 mile record is easily comparable to Jakob's outdoor record.
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Exactly El geuerroj would have run 323 with the shoe technology today, Bekele probably 1230 and sub 26.
this 100%. we need converted times to be the headline, not ignore that so and so has motors in his shoes making him 10 seconds faster. times all need asterisks in this "track as the XFL" era.
this is a goal that Kerr set several months back. Jakob, like most, doesn't base his winter training around hitting a mid winter peak. indoor tracks aren't slower. they just have races at the wrong time of year for most people's goals.
Rubbish. All of it. Kerr doesn't train to peak indoors. Most top northern hemisphere runners will compete indoors over the winter. That includes Jakob - when he isn't injured. Indoor tracks are slower because they are far shorter than outdoor tracks which is why all indoor records are slower than outdoor records and always have been.
Kerr set this goal at least as far back as November. He absolutely trained to peak for this. There are several runners who have faster times on indoor tracks than outdoor, and not for lack of effort on outdoor tracks. especially in the neighborhood of 3000- to 2miles.
Rubbish. All of it. Kerr doesn't train to peak indoors. Most top northern hemisphere runners will compete indoors over the winter. That includes Jakob - when he isn't injured. Indoor tracks are slower because they are far shorter than outdoor tracks which is why all indoor records are slower than outdoor records and always have been.
Kerr set this goal at least as far back as November. He absolutely trained to peak for this. There are several runners who have faster times on indoor tracks than outdoor, and not for lack of effort on outdoor tracks. especially in the neighborhood of 3000- to 2miles.
Definitely the indoor fitness peak, but no so drastic a peak that it would hurt his outdoor season. Could easily carry the fitness to world indoors too.
Rubbish. All of it. Kerr doesn't train to peak indoors. Most top northern hemisphere runners will compete indoors over the winter. That includes Jakob - when he isn't injured. Indoor tracks are slower because they are far shorter than outdoor tracks which is why all indoor records are slower than outdoor records and always have been.
Kerr set this goal at least as far back as November. He absolutely trained to peak for this. There are several runners who have faster times on indoor tracks than outdoor, and not for lack of effort on outdoor tracks. especially in the neighborhood of 3000- to 2miles.
It is irrelevant that a few runners are faster indoors; all the indoor records are slower and the records are the consequence of what is possible with a much larger pool. So Kerr trained to peak for his records but Jakob didn't for his?
this is a goal that Kerr set several months back. Jakob, like most, doesn't base his winter training around hitting a mid winter peak. indoor tracks aren't slower. they just have races at the wrong time of year for most people's goals.
Rubbish. All of it. Kerr doesn't train to peak indoors. Most top northern hemisphere runners will compete indoors over the winter. That includes Jakob - when he isn't injured. Indoors must matter enough to him that has two wrs on the surface. Indoor tracks are slower because they are far shorter than outdoor tracks which is why all indoor records are slower than outdoor records and always have been.
The 1500 (held by Jakob) and mile wrs are over 4 seconds slower than the outdoor records. That suggests that Kerr's indoor 2 mile record is easily comparable to Jakob's outdoor record.
One of the dumbest things I have ever read on this forum. 8:00 is great but to say it is comparable to 7:54 is insane.
Rubbish. All of it. Kerr doesn't train to peak indoors. Most top northern hemisphere runners will compete indoors over the winter. That includes Jakob - when he isn't injured. Indoors must matter enough to him that has two wrs on the surface. Indoor tracks are slower because they are far shorter than outdoor tracks which is why all indoor records are slower than outdoor records and always have been.
The 1500 (held by Jakob) and mile wrs are over 4 seconds slower than the outdoor records. That suggests that Kerr's indoor 2 mile record is easily comparable to Jakob's outdoor record.
One of the dumbest things I have ever read on this forum. 8:00 is great but to say it is comparable to 7:54 is insane.
You aren't very good at basic arithmetic, are you? The world marks indoors for the 1500 (held by Jakob) and the mile are over 4 seconds slower than the outdoor marks. On that basis the indoor 2 mile mark should be around 8 seconds slower. But Kerr's record is 6 seconds slower. That easily suggests he is in Ingebrigtsen's outdoor ball-park.
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That suggests that Kerr's indoor 2 mile record is easily comparable to Jakob's outdoor record.
Kerr himself disagrees with you. Watch the interview.
Modesty. Look at the gaps between the 1500 and mile records indoors and outdoors, a differential which is over 4 seconds for half the distance Kerr was racing. It says Kerr's time is worth up to 6 seconds faster outdoors.