When I ran for the school I think international students didn’t get much financial aid in general. Has that changed?
As an alum I think coach Gibby is doing a great job. You can’t ask for much more tbh. Among the top, if not the top of the ivy league and one of the best in the nation. National champions multiple times over for individuals recently spanning multiple events. Outside of a handful of schools, not many can claim that. Especially schools without athletic scholarships.
Btw… many many many families who send their kids to Harvard as athletes make more than a combined 150k. So it’s not like everyone is on financial aid.
When I ran for the school I think international students didn’t get much financial aid in general. Has that changed?
As an alum I think coach Gibby is doing a great job. You can’t ask for much more tbh. Among the top, if not the top of the ivy league and one of the best in the nation. National champions multiple times over for individuals recently spanning multiple events. Outside of a handful of schools, not many can claim that. Especially schools without athletic scholarships.
Btw… many many many families who send their kids to Harvard as athletes make more than a combined 150k. So it’s not like everyone is on financial aid.
Harvard does offer the same financial aid packages to foreign students as domestic.
There are many families that make over 150k but the financial aid has tiers - meaning if they make 250k per year they may only be paying 30% of the total cost, which is still cheaper than full price at an in-state school such as UMass Amherst (which is 33k for tuition, room and board.
The biggest factor is now Harvard is test-optional. There a millions of high school seniors with 4.0 GPAs but only a small percentage of them were capable of getting over 1500 on the SAT regardless of how much they studied. Now you don't even need to take the SAT.
Going SAT optional is a game changer for Harvard. It increased the size of their recruiting pool by at least 100x, and that's not exaggerating when you consider international students.
Maybe I'm judging him differently because he goes to Harvard but he said on the podcast he runs 100 miles a week on 6 days with 1 double. That's 16+ miles a day.
Am I missing something? Anyone else thought this was really high?
If you told me the NCAA XC champ was running 100 miles a week I wouldn't be surprised, but the way he's doing it indicates even more volume than the actual mileage totals.
16 mile workout todays sounded common. 3 mile warm-up, 3 mile cooldown. Then a 10 mile workout. That is a lot of volume.
Then he laughed when Rojo said he might be good at the marathon.
Any other college kids train like this. We never did more than 5-6 miles of anything hard.
Looking at his Strava he has about 3500 miles so far this year. So, while he peaked at about 100, his average is in the low 70s.
Paul Gompers another notorious high mileage runner from Harvard…
think he teaches finance there maybe whispering in banks ear.
gompers was good too.
known for high high mileage more than everyone else of a high mileage era.
I was going to mention Gompers, who was already running 125 pretty quick miles per week as a Harvard freshman, and with the shoe technology of over forty years ago.
That Crimson article was written early in his freshman year (October 1982), about three months before he set the WORLD junior record in the marathon (2:15:28). After graduating summa c_m laude in 1987 (he had taken a year off from college to work for Bayer), he spent the next year running up to 175 miles per week at Oxford on a Marshall Scholarship (which people who are really into this stuff know to require a higher level of academic achievement than that needed for a Rhodes Scholarship, especially for a top-level athlete). Gompers also finished fourth in the 1988 Olympic Trials marathon, one year after graduating from college. (For anyone who might assume that Gompers was just a good marathoner, it's worth noting that he was also a top competitor in NCAA track and cross-country national championships.)
if anything, Blanks's 100 miles per week with 6-minute-mile easy days sounds rather light, particularly with current shoe technology, which dramatically decreases the risk of impact injuries while also increasing training and racing pace. I would have guessed at least 120 miles per week, with doubles most days. I assume that his higher intensity training is vastly more notable than his training volume and easy cruising pace.
Harvard cross country coach Alex Gibby joins us at 63:59 to discuss his training philosophy, rise in the sport, and of course NCAA Cross Country Champion Graham Blanks. Prior to that we break down this week's running news bef...
Is Gibby/Blanks training sort of similar to the Salazar system? I remember reading that Galen and MO’s easy days were at 5:30 pace and he wasn’t a fan of “junk miles”. I realize that Mo and Rupp were on a different level than Blanks but 5:30 pace everyday still sounds like it would be quite draining.
Is Gibby/Blanks training sort of similar to the Salazar system? I remember reading that Galen and MO’s easy days were at 5:30 pace and he wasn’t a fan of “junk miles”. I realize that Mo and Rupp were on a different level than Blanks but 5:30 pace everyday still sounds like it would be quite draining.
wouldn't say the training is overall similar but both have a similar philosophy on easy days.
I do believe Salazar had easy days on a 6:00-5:30 pace range depending on how they feel.
Is Gibby/Blanks training sort of similar to the Salazar system? I remember reading that Galen and MO’s easy days were at 5:30 pace and he wasn’t a fan of “junk miles”. I realize that Mo and Rupp were on a different level than Blanks but 5:30 pace everyday still sounds like it would be quite draining.
Steve Jones trained fast, lower mileage for a marathoner.
Dude, that Graham Blanks guy runs like crazy! 100 miles a week? That's way more than us. Coach never makes us run that far. NCAA champions maybe, but even then, that seems insane. 16 miles every day, plus those 10-mile workouts? My legs would die! Coach says 5-6 miles hard is plenty. Makes sense, gotta keep the body in one piece, you know? Blanks must be a total beast, or maybe his coach is just nuts. Either way, that's not something most of us should try
Dude, that Graham Blanks guy runs like crazy! 100 miles a week? That's way more than us. Coach never makes us run that far. NCAA champions maybe, but even then, that seems insane. 16 miles every day, plus those 10-mile workouts? My legs would die! Coach says 5-6 miles hard is plenty. Makes sense, gotta keep the body in one piece, you know? Blanks must be a total beast, or maybe his coach is just nuts. Either way, that's not something most of us should try
Satire? Many NCAA runners are doing that much. Most just do it in doubles.
Maybe I'm judging him differently because he goes to Harvard but he said on the podcast he runs 100 miles a week on 6 days with 1 double. That's 16+ miles a day.
Am I missing something? Anyone else thought this was really high?
If you told me the NCAA XC champ was running 100 miles a week I wouldn't be surprised, but the way he's doing it indicates even more volume than the actual mileage totals.
16 mile workout todays sounded common. 3 mile warm-up, 3 mile cooldown. Then a 10 mile workout. That is a lot of volume.
Then he laughed when Rojo said he might be good at the marathon.
Any other college kids train like this. We never did more than 5-6 miles of anything hard.
