Great to see the racism and doping support crews out here in force with their backwards logic that is so stupid it's actually difficult to even address.
Congrats guys.
To summarize
White guy in Oregon is SO ANGRY at Black woman from Africa. Sal is SO ANGRY.
Many other Soft Grown Men (victims!!) chiming support.
Great to see the racism and doping support crews out here in force with their backwards logic that is so stupid it's actually difficult to even address.
Congrats guys.
To summarize
White guy in Oregon is SO ANGRY at Black woman from Africa. Sal is SO ANGRY.
Many other Soft Grown Men (victims!!) chiming support.
Journalist was rude -- Athlete over-reacted
End of thread
To Summarize:
Someone specifically mentioned race followed by a mean explicative while on the job. Yes, an interview like this is doing her job representing her country and sponsors.
That should never be acceptable. And it is usually isn't. Forget about warnings or suspensions, most people would be immediately fired, as they should.
"I'm sorry 12.12 is either an insane clock malfunction or some wonder dope." - More confirmation bias...with folks like you it doesn't actually matter how fast she runs in future...if she runs fast again you'll say it's the dope, if she doesn't run fast again you'll say it WAS the dope. No point reasoning with folks like you. I'd have said it will be interesting to see the details of why she was cleared but will obviously not make an iota of difference for you, since your mind is made up and the stats will ALWAYS confirm your own biases. You might not agree with that, but that's how biases work, they're often subtle and hidden even from ourselves - let's just agree to disagree and move on, thanks!
You know there's essentially zero chance she's not a doper?
I don't care about AIU, appeals, getting off on a technicality, innocent before proven guilty, etc. She has doped extensively. It's not even a question.
Have a lot of people defending her only just started watching the sport or something?
"I'm sorry 12.12 is either an insane clock malfunction or some wonder dope." - More confirmation bias...with folks like you it doesn't actually matter how fast she runs in future...if she runs fast again you'll say it's the dope, if she doesn't run fast again you'll say it WAS the dope. No point reasoning with folks like you. I'd have said it will be interesting to see the details of why she was cleared but will obviously not make an iota of difference for you, since your mind is made up and the stats will ALWAYS confirm your own biases. You might not agree with that, but that's how biases work, they're often subtle and hidden even from ourselves - let's just agree to disagree and move on, thanks!
You know there's essentially zero chance she's not a doper?
I don't care about AIU, appeals, getting off on a technicality, innocent before proven guilty, etc. She has doped extensively. It's not even a question.
Have a lot of people defending her only just started watching the sport or something?
Why is there zero chance she’s not a doper? Folks like you can’t be reasoned with, you’re just confirming your bias against her by saying that no facts matter and no facts can change your mind about whether she has doped? You must be a troll or just part of the problem highlighted by Dennehy’s behavior others have outlined before - looks like he clearly has a lot of like minded people to write for in the fandom!
You know there's essentially zero chance she's not a doper?
I don't care about AIU, appeals, getting off on a technicality, innocent before proven guilty, etc. She has doped extensively. It's not even a question.
Have a lot of people defending her only just started watching the sport or something?
Why is there zero chance she’s not a doper? Folks like you can’t be reasoned with, you’re just confirming your bias against her by saying that no facts matter and no facts can change your mind about whether she has doped? You must be a troll or just part of the problem highlighted by Dennehy’s behavior others have outlined before - looks like he clearly has a lot of like minded people to write for in the fandom!
Are YOU a troll? The hypocrisy of accusing everyone else of being biased, while being incredibly biased yourself, is not surprising. It's not true that everything you dislike in the world is racist. Tobi Amusan's comment here is racist.
Amusan could p*iss on your head and you would believe it's raining.
So when the AIU report is released and confirms what we already know (that it has now been ruled that she did NOT actually miss 3 tests), can you be open minded enough to actually look at the facts/details and whether they actually do implicate her in any way, or whether they cast doubt on AIU’s process in her case - or is the AIU above reproach and mistakes? Why haven’t they released the report when they said they would a week ago?
Since she is still guilty in your eyes even though she has already been judged innocent, says a lot more about you and your personal bias than her innocence or guilt that you’re not interested in the actual facts of the report before making a decision? Wow, I just hope this is all trolling, because otherwise it just shows that there are deeply rooted reasons within many people as to why they want to judge her as guilty no matter what, lol
Sad to see, I guess Dennehy’s behavior is just a reflection of a section of the fandom, he knows his audience!
Dude, stick with the facts and stop exposing your bias and hatred. Of course you will descend to lewd insults when you don’t have any unbiased and logical points to make - sad!
Why is there zero chance she’s not a doper? Folks like you can’t be reasoned with, you’re just confirming your bias against her by saying that no facts matter and no facts can change your mind about whether she has doped? You must be a troll or just part of the problem highlighted by Dennehy’s behavior others have outlined before - looks like he clearly has a lot of like minded people to write for in the fandom!
Are YOU a troll? The hypocrisy of accusing everyone else of being biased, while being incredibly biased yourself, is not surprising. It's not true that everything you dislike in the world is racist. Tobi Amusan's comment here is racist.
Amusan could p*iss on your head and you would believe it's raining.
The funniest thing about your post is that I never used the word racism. Maybe others in this thread did, but I only said bias - you’re clearly biased but I have left the reason for your bias out of my comments so as not to make any assumption like you’re accusing me of right now…so sad what I’m seeing in this forum, sad!
Are YOU a troll? The hypocrisy of accusing everyone else of being biased, while being incredibly biased yourself, is not surprising. It's not true that everything you dislike in the world is racist. Tobi Amusan's comment here is racist.
Amusan could p*iss on your head and you would believe it's raining.
The funniest thing about your post is that I never used the word racism. Maybe others in this thread did, but I only said bias - you’re clearly biased but I have left the reason for your bias out of my comments so as not to make any assumption like you’re accusing me of right now…so sad what I’m seeing in this forum, sad!
So when the AIU report is released and confirms what we already know (that it has now been ruled that she did NOT actually miss 3 tests), can you be open minded enough to actually look at the facts/details and whether they actually do implicate her in any way, or whether they cast doubt on AIU’s process in her case - or is the AIU above reproach and mistakes? Why haven’t they released the report when they said they would a week ago?
Since she is still guilty in your eyes even though she has already been judged innocent, says a lot more about you and your personal bias than her innocence or guilt that you’re not interested in the actual facts of the report before making a decision? Wow, I just hope this is all trolling, because otherwise it just shows that there are deeply rooted reasons within many people as to why they want to judge her as guilty no matter what, lol
Sad to see, I guess Dennehy’s behavior is just a reflection of a section of the fandom, he knows his audience!
The AIU already released its report that stated she missed 3 tests. That's why it is in process of appealing to CAS. She should never have been on the starting line at Worlds. I am glad she did not place. That would have been even more of a travesty.
Are YOU a troll? The hypocrisy of accusing everyone else of being biased, while being incredibly biased yourself, is not surprising. It's not true that everything you dislike in the world is racist. Tobi Amusan's comment here is racist.
Amusan could p*iss on your head and you would believe it's raining.
It’s about as racist as “toxic masculinity”, a commonly accepted term in social discourse, is sexist.
Has Cathal said he was wronged? Have white people stepped forward to take offense? Or is this like some cases of screamingly denounced cultural appropriation where the folks of the allegedly appropriated culture can’t care less?
Why is there zero chance she’s not a doper? Folks like you can’t be reasoned with, you’re just confirming your bias against her by saying that no facts matter and no facts can change your mind about whether she has doped? You must be a troll or just part of the problem highlighted by Dennehy’s behavior others have outlined before - looks like he clearly has a lot of like minded people to write for in the fandom!
There's zero chance she's not a doper because I'm not a moron and I have experience of the sport.
She missed three tests, that's not really in doubt. But basically she's managed to argue her way out of one of the missed tests on a technicality.
So the situation is that she's dodged two tests officially, but the third one she dodged the tester didn't follow some arbitrary rule so is deemed invalid.
Also, have there ever been any clean top level Nigerians? Not many spring to mind. I always got the impression doping wasn't really seen as a big deal there.
That last line uncovers your racism already, especially when Tobi doesn't even train in Nigeria nor do they provide any resources for her: she is a UTEP alum and moved with her Jamaican coach to train in Alabama after that.
Besides, she was actually cleared of two of the "missed tests". So we'll just have to wait and see what the report says. Not that it will affect your judgement as you clearly decided she's guilty even before her provisional suspension!
That last line uncovers your racism already, especially when Tobi doesn't even train in Nigeria nor do they provide any resources for her: she is a UTEP alum and moved with her Jamaican coach to train in Alabama after that.
Besides, she was actually cleared of two of the "missed tests". So we'll just have to wait and see what the report says. Not that it will affect your judgement as you clearly decided she's guilty even before her provisional suspension!
Someone running that fast from a doping country with a coach from a doping country doesn't really need to be dodging tests all over the place (like she was) to look like a clear doper.
The running from the testers for months is just the tip of the iceberg.