Gessner was another one. 56 and 1:57.
Gessner was another one. 56 and 1:57.
I looked at Hirsch profile. 60s 400m probably is his best time from workout. Like 10x400m with 60s rest.
I know NCAA runner who has similar 10000m pb to his, but slower 3000 un 5000 times than Hirsch. And my guy ran 3:46 1500m.
That is basically 60s speed.
coach of it wrote:
No. That is bad coaching if you can't get a 57 guy with great endurance to break 2. I have done it multiple times.
I was involved in the 800m for many years and I'm telling you and everyone else that athletes who run sub-2 in the 800m usually run 57s in interval workouts. For an 800m specialist sub-2 usually equates to 53-54 or perhaps 54-56 for a mile/2-mile type. I guess 57 is possible for really unique, but to say "I have done it multiple times" sounds like a bit of a stretch.
Best 400/800 ratio I have seen are from 8:44 3k steeplechaser.
He ran 53.3 and 1:54.8 in races
1500m pb of 3:48, 3000m 8:15
coach of it wrote:
Nice examples. I believe you but you don't seem to believe that I have coached several guys to 57/1:59. Seth Hirsch claims that he can barely break 60 on the fly yet ran 7:59 for 3000 which is 2:0x back to back to back to back for 800.
And you believe that obvious lie?
If I told an 8 year old, they would laugh
I was an 800 meter runner in college so I have a lot of experience with seeing people with slow 400 prs go sub 2. I know a 1:54 guy with a 400 pr in the low 54s, but the problems with questions like these is that people who have run sub 2 off of slow 400 prs likely could've run faster if they ran the event a few times after they went sub 2. You can honestly do this with any event. Example: I broke both 4:20 and 4:15 for the mile before ever breaking 16 minutes in the 5k, guys in my mile heats with similar prs to me were running well under 15 minutes for 5000 meters. Post college I was training significantly less and was not in nearly as good shape as I was when I ran my 800 and mile prs but was running in the 15:30s. A lot of guys with slow 400 prs that go sub 2 simply do not want to waste a meet or all out effort in an event they are not that good at. Lots of people run their lifetime bests in college, and college is short, and most people want to run the events they are actually good at during their experience.