As with the women's 5, not sure why all these 10/5 runners would dawdle like that right up to 600m to go, when you have the OG 1,500, silver in this WC 1,500 comfortably in the pack, to the extent that he can have sips of drinks at the relative joggong pace they were going after a reasonable first km.
Really dumb, Fisher included.
It looked like every Farah championship victory. You always sat there thinking "why the hell are they not trying to fry him?"
But when they tried to fry Farah in the 10,000 in 2017, he still burned them off in the final lap. There were similar efforts in 2015 and 2016. It seems that when you get a guy with 3:28 1500 speed (as both Farah and Jakob have, or had in Farah's case), add some endurance, they can handle fast or slow races. What makes them champions is that they can win in a number of ways.
Temperature at 6:30 in Eugene last night, 90-91 degrees and sunny. These are 12:30s and 12:40s guys in the last year or two and they couldn't come close to hanging with him.
Grijalva:
3:59.96 last 1600m
2:55.51 last 1200m
1:53.70 last 800m
and 54.61 last 400m
65.45/61.81/59.09/54.61
Not bad for a runner most on these boards thought wouldn’t make the final, heck, Grijalva wasn’t sure if he could make the final.
I hope he gets to travel to Europe and get that sub 13:00 this summer.
Temperature at 6:30 in Eugene last night, 90-91 degrees and sunny. These are 12:30s and 12:40s guys in the last year or two and they couldn't come close to hanging with him.
Grijalva:
3:59.96 last 1600m
2:55.51 last 1200m
1:53.70 last 800m
and 54.61 last 400m
65.45/61.81/59.09/54.61
Not bad for a runner most on these boards thought wouldn’t make the final, heck, Grijalva wasn’t sure if he could make the final.
I hope he gets to travel to Europe and get that sub 13:00 this summer.
Should have checked my math first. 4:00.88 last 1600m, still not shabby.
I am a little confused as to what Jakob ran the penultimate lap in.
Was it 56.34 followed by a last lap of 53.94?
Really, really impressive if that was the case, especially in 90 degree heat.
Official split with J.I. in the lead at 4200m is 11:16.46. Penultimate lap as I stated hours ago was 58.85. I do not know where Weldon got 56.34. Official 4600m split, 12:15.31. I hope you guys aren't engineers. Do you take another persons word for it regarding math?
I am a little confused as to what Jakob ran the penultimate lap in.
Was it 56.34 followed by a last lap of 53.94?
Really, really impressive if that was the case, especially in 90 degree heat.
Official split with J.I. in the lead at 4200m is 11:16.46. Penultimate lap as I stated hours ago was 58.85. I do not know where Weldon got 56.34. Official 4600m split, 12:15.31. I hope you guys aren't engineers. Do you take another persons word for it regarding math?
The confusion is based on fact that the splits wejo gave started from the beginning, with 400 meter intervals... this leads to the 4400-4800 split (56.33, based on the 100 meter segmental splits).
So, the second half of the 56.33 split (4400-4800) was the first half of the 53.94 split (4600-5000).
But having the 100 meter splits for the whole race should clear up any questions either way.
He needs to move to the 5 and 10. Combining his 1500 ability with his threshold is something we’ve never seen before. 62 second laps are jogging for him. He could win the 5 and 10 double for at least a decade if he chooses.
I tend to agree.
He is one notch better than Farah at 1500m, but one notch below Farah at 10000m however.
I simply stated official 4200m split, 11:16.46 and I simply stated official 4600m split, 12:15.31. I hope this is not debated much. There is nothing to debate. I do not believe it is physically possible for a 1:46.xx 800m runner to finish race final 800m in 1:49.xx after splitting 4000m at 13:27.xx 5000m pace. That is why I am surprised no one thought to double check Weldon's math. I am not mad that Weldon made a math error. Stating that J.I., a 1:46.xx man raced in final 800m in 1:49.xx after splitting 4200m at 13:25.30x pace is not believable. I am surprised no one else caught the error.
I simply stated official 4200m split, 11:16.46 and I simply stated official 4600m split, 12:15.31. I hope this is not debated much. There is nothing to debate. I do not believe it is physically possible for a 1:46.xx 800m runner to finish race final 800m in 1:49.xx after splitting 4000m at 13:27.xx 5000m pace. That is why I am surprised no one thought to double check Weldon's math. I am not mad that Weldon made a math error. Stating that J.I., a 1:46.xx man raced in final 800m in 1:49.xx after splitting 4200m at 13:25.30x pace is not believable. I am surprised no one else caught the error.
No, Weldon did not make a math error, he was just including a final split (53.94) that overlapped with his previous set of splits (from the start of the race to 4800 meters). That is why his final split was in parenthesis, because it doesn't follow the 56 second split, but is rather overlapping.
Some people were confused by the formatting, but wejo did not imply that anyone finished the race with a 1:49 800m split.
Official split with J.I. in the lead at 4200m is 11:16.46. Penultimate lap as I stated hours ago was 58.85. I do not know where Weldon got 56.34. Official 4600m split, 12:15.31. I hope you guys aren't engineers. Do you take another persons word for it regarding math?
The confusion is based on fact that the splits wejo gave started from the beginning, with 400 meter intervals... this leads to the 4400-4800 split (56.33, based on the 100 meter segmental splits).
So, the second half of the 56.33 split (4400-4800) was the first half of the 53.94 split (4600-5000).
But having the 100 meter splits for the whole race should clear up any questions either way.
I simply stated official 4200m split, 11:16.46 and I simply stated official 4600m split, 12:15.31. I hope this is not debated much. There is nothing to debate. I do not believe it is physically possible for a 1:46.xx 800m runner to finish race final 800m in 1:49.xx after splitting 4000m at 13:27.xx 5000m pace. That is why I am surprised no one thought to double check Weldon's math. I am not mad that Weldon made a math error. Stating that J.I., a 1:46.xx man raced in final 800m in 1:49.xx after splitting 4200m at 13:25.30x pace is not believable. I am surprised no one else caught the error.
That kind of reminded me of the 1983 5000 when Eamonn Coghlin won.
The whole race you're wondering why everyone else was giving it to him.
I was thinking the same thing watching this 5K: It seemed like the no one but the kenyans had a race plan other than Jakob, and when that didn't work out after the first 2K, everyone else just stopped trying and was watching for someone else to have a race plan. It was bizarre, but it shows what happens when the rest of the world is so ready for the kenyans and ethiopians to yet again just dominate the front of the distance races that they're completely unprepared to do anything else.
They didn’t try to fry him because they had the same endurance. If the best Kenyans and Ethiopians in the field can run 12:40 and JI can run 12:40 then it’s a toss up in perfectly paced time trial. Anything below that and the 3:28 1500m guy (like Farrah before him) destroys a bunch of guys who can run 3:31 max. They basically have no strategy except to hope his endurance is off and try to kill him with an unrelenting pace for the whole distance. They don’t do this because prisoners dilemma makes no one want to push the pace after 3k because that destroys their own race by tiring themselves extra as a rabbit