University of Stupid Minnesota
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University of Northern Iowa is pretty awful on both sides.
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Andy Don't Be a D%^K wrote:
Be careful with your words wrote:
You know, by letsrun law, technically this now makes you Brooks Lecompte.
No, I just did research on the school after people started tearing the team apart. Also, I am not their coach I just did some research on his background and think he is a positive influence that seems dedicated to making the program excel. Also, if you start the whole let's destroy their coaches name because I gave the guy some praise that is called defamation and I am sure Wejo can look your computer Ip information up and pass that alone to the coach with your information to make sure proper legal action is taken on you for ruining someone's name because you are a piece of garbage that is into that sort of thing.
Another day, another example of people not knowing what defamation is. (Hint, comments on an anonymous message board do not count- even if they're really mean!) Do you guys ever look up the words you use before using them, or are we all just committed to doing so after the fact?
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OhioBuff wrote:
Andy Don't Be a D%^K wrote:
No, I just did research on the school after people started tearing the team apart. Also, I am not their coach I just did some research on his background and think he is a positive influence that seems dedicated to making the program excel. Also, if you start the whole let's destroy their coaches name because I gave the guy some praise that is called defamation and I am sure Wejo can look your computer Ip information up and pass that alone to the coach with your information to make sure proper legal action is taken on you for ruining someone's name because you are a piece of garbage that is into that sort of thing.
Another day, another example of people not knowing what defamation is. (Hint, comments on an anonymous message board do not count- even if they're really mean!) Do you guys ever look up the words you use before using them, or are we all just committed to doing so after the fact?
If you are intentionally saying untrue things about someone on a message board that even 1 or 2 people take as truth that classified Defamation.
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Mount St Marys
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Texas State University Men, Nicholls State Men, Sam Houston State Women are all absolute abominations. Each of these have to be considered as some of the worst and most embarrassing...
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Evansville all time....
So do all of these schools mentioned offer XC or track scholarships?
Could it be that these schools use all of their scholarships for sprints/field?
Alan
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Nikeprolapse wrote:
Mount St Marys
Hard to believe they once had an Olympic gold medalist run for them. I assume they took resources from cross country and track and moved them to basketball when they moved to DI.
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Chief Ten wrote:
I’ll bite—how about Seattle University in both track and cross country.
Looks to me like their administration has both sports as Title IX fillers. Hell, their program isn’t even a decent D2 program, as Seattle Pacific, Western Washington & Central Washington would run circles around them. I honestly thought that getting rid of the Steidls would help turn the ship around, but it’s not happening.
If the administration won’t find a way to improve the track & XC program, maybe it should just shut it down.
Redhawk Country—Let’s Ride.
About 10-15 years ago I went to SU on my 5th recruiting trip just to see what kind of $$$ I could wrangle/night out in Seattle. My PR as a junior would have been the school record in the indoor mile by a fair bit. Uli told me they were holding out for a "footlocker-type" to use their scholarship money on. That told me everything I needed to know. I wonder how many bad programs do this?
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Tell me you didn't run D1 without telling me you didn't run D1
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Andy Don\'t Be a D%^K wrote:
OhioBuff wrote:
Another day, another example of people not knowing what defamation is. (Hint, comments on an anonymous message board do not count- even if they're really mean!) Do you guys ever look up the words you use before using them, or are we all just committed to doing so after the fact?
If you are intentionally saying untrue things about someone on a message board that even 1 or 2 people take as truth that classified Defamation.
Brooks! Good to have ya here lad, welcome.
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Runningart2004 wrote:
Evansville all time....
So do all of these schools mentioned offer XC or track scholarships?
Could it be that these schools use all of their scholarships for sprints/field?
Alan
Often that’s the case with the P5 programs like USC’s women, Vanderbilt’s women (they don’t offer men’s scholarships period), many SEC/southern schools in fact. More of a random hodgepodge with who actually supports their program with scholarships on the mid-major side…by all accounts, Evansville is one of the best funded “mid major cross country only” programs out there…
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Thems the rules wrote:
Andy Don\'t Be a D%^K wrote:
If you are intentionally saying untrue things about someone on a message board that even 1 or 2 people take as truth that classified Defamation.
Brooks! Good to have ya here lad, welcome.
Weird that someone would welcome themselves here.
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SeattleU has been Division I for about 10 years & still hasn’t qualified anyone in track or cross country for the final NCAA championships (and I know how much SIDs love to twist the fact that going to the regionals in track is as good as going to the nationals).
Would be interesting to see what current D1 schools have not qualified an athlete or a team into the NCAA championships in cross country, indoor & outdoor track since moving to D1.
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Chief Ten wrote:
SeattleU has been Division I for about 10 years & still hasn’t qualified anyone in track or cross country for the final NCAA championships (and I know how much SIDs love to twist the fact that going to the regionals in track is as good as going to the nationals).
Would be interesting to see what current D1 schools have not qualified an athlete or a team into the NCAA championships in cross country, indoor & outdoor track since moving to D1.
It would be interesting to see, but I don't know if I like it as a metric to determine if a team is good or not.
For track, I'd be way more comfortable calling a team good if they sent six athletes to regionals than I would if they sent one athlete to nationals. I've seen some pretty below average teams land one stud international that made nationals but then had two people score at their conference meet.
Qualifying for nationals as a team for cross puts you in the top 10% in the nation. The majority of those teams are the same every year and have been the same for the last decade or more. Similar to track, there are a number of top-10 teams in a region that have never sent a team to nationals.
Even the men's team I ran for that's had may be a dozen athletes under 3:45 and 14:00 in the last 10 years, but never had a team or individual qualify for Nationals. They win their conference meet more often than they lose it, but nationals is a very different level that distinguishes great teams from really good ones, not necessarily good from average or poor.
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The Bluejay Banger wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Evansville all time....
So do all of these schools mentioned offer XC or track scholarships?
Could it be that these schools use all of their scholarships for sprints/field?
Alan
Often that’s the case with the P5 programs like USC’s women, Vanderbilt’s women (they don’t offer men’s scholarships period), many SEC/southern schools in fact. More of a random hodgepodge with who actually supports their program with scholarships on the mid-major side…by all accounts, Evansville is one of the best funded “mid major cross country only” programs out there…
Only problem with what you’re saying is Evansville isn’t “cross country only” they have indoor/outdoor track as well
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Ole Miss has been extremely sh*t. They keep getting good recruits though. Why?
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Also an NJ guy wrote:
NJ running wrote:
Rutgers XC is atrocious. What happens when HC hires his buddies.
Who is HC? rutgers use to be very good when Gags was the coach. Yes its true they have been very bad since, but Jelley an Traynor are committed to bringing the team back to a respectable level.
And no, I did not go to Rutgers
they had a freshman girl run 4:36 last year so that has to count for something
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St Thomas is better wrote:
University of Stupid Minnesota
But come on it’s not as bad as Rutgers. And look how much UMN lost from last year and how young it is now
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coachy wrote:
Sacramento State and University of the Pacific both aren't good and haven't been forever.
Last and second to last at Big Sky00
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