The reliability issues with Teslas are the cabin electronics.
They have fewer moving parts with the power train, which is good, but all of those computer systems leads to more areas that can wrong in that area.
In general, a car with fewer bells and whistles will have fewer things that can wrong. If you want reliability get a car without power windows, locks, sunroof, navigation, touch screens, etc.
But all new cars are trending to have those even if they are gas powered.
Toyotas and Hondas come with power windows, locks, sunroofs, navigation, touch screens, etc., and they are extremely reliable.
They break down on the side of the road more than Teslas. I see them on the side of the road every day. I never see a Tesla broken down.
Tesla owners love their cars. Toyota and Honda owners, not so much. They wish they could get a Tesla, especially with gas prices at $5 a gallon.
The reliability issues with Teslas are the cabin electronics.
They have fewer moving parts with the power train, which is good, but all of those computer systems leads to more areas that can wrong in that area.
In general, a car with fewer bells and whistles will have fewer things that can wrong. If you want reliability get a car without power windows, locks, sunroof, navigation, touch screens, etc.
But all new cars are trending to have those even if they are gas powered.
Toyotas and Hondas come with power windows, locks, sunroofs, navigation, touch screens, etc., and they are extremely reliable.
And a Tesla can drive itself. It can also update its software to add new features while you sleep. So the Tesla gets better and better the longer you own it.
Toyota and Honda can't begin to compete with that.
If you need a software update in a Toyota or Honda you have to go to the dealership. And you have to pay for the bug fixes! These are defects that are 100% the fault of Toyota and Honda, but you have to spend time at the dealership and they make you pay for it!
Toyotas and Hondas come with power windows, locks, sunroofs, navigation, touch screens, etc., and they are extremely reliable.
They break down on the side of the road more than Teslas. I see them on the side of the road every day. I never see a Tesla broken down.
Tesla owners love their cars. Toyota and Honda owners, not so much. They wish they could get a Tesla, especially with gas prices at $5 a gallon.
"Toyota earns the top spot as the best automaker for dependability. Toyota vehicles are known for their longevity, and they are proven to last longer than any other brand."
They break down on the side of the road more than Teslas. I see them on the side of the road every day. I never see a Tesla broken down.
Tesla owners love their cars. Toyota and Honda owners, not so much. They wish they could get a Tesla, especially with gas prices at $5 a gallon.
"Toyota earns the top spot as the best automaker for dependability. Toyota vehicles are known for their longevity, and they are proven to last longer than any other brand."
The new Teslas with LFP batteries should easily last 1 million miles. Toyota can't top that.
Sally, your view seems to be that EVs will never pass gas powered cars (in our lifetimes), and that’s fine as an opinion.
But EVs will surely gain as a percent of all vehicles sold, you have to agree with that.
Do you think Toyota and or Honda will surpass Tesla in EV sales as they put their leverage into it?
I certainly agree that EVs will gain as a percent of all vehicles sold. In fact that percentage will increase substantially. I ususally try to temper FAt Hurts' enthusiasm that EVs's dominace is coming quite soon. Fat Hurts, against other experts, believes that 90% of all vehicles sold in 2030 will have a plug. I am curious also to see how Toyota (who I believe is working with Subaru on EV development) and Audi/Volkswagen will do producing electric vehicles. And how the Ford 150 Lightning will go over with cowboys and Texans. I think the F-150 has been the best-selling vehicle for like 40 years straight.
Sally, your view seems to be that EVs will never pass gas powered cars (in our lifetimes), and that’s fine as an opinion.
But EVs will surely gain as a percent of all vehicles sold, you have to agree with that.
Do you think Toyota and or Honda will surpass Tesla in EV sales as they put their leverage into it?
I know this post was not directed at me, but Honda and Toyota will absolutely pass Tesla in EV sales. They may not be the first to do so, but they will pass Tesla for sure.
Sally, your view seems to be that EVs will never pass gas powered cars (in our lifetimes), and that’s fine as an opinion.
But EVs will surely gain as a percent of all vehicles sold, you have to agree with that.
Do you think Toyota and or Honda will surpass Tesla in EV sales as they put their leverage into it?
I certainly agree that EVs will gain as a percent of all vehicles sold. In fact that percentage will increase substantially. I ususally try to temper FAt Hurts' enthusiasm that EVs's dominace is coming quite soon. Fat Hurts, against other experts, believes that 90% of all vehicles sold in 2030 will have a plug. I am curious also to see how Toyota (who I believe is working with Subaru on EV development) and Audi/Volkswagen will do producing electric vehicles. And how the Ford 150 Lightning will go over with cowboys and Texans. I think the F-150 has been the best-selling vehicle for like 40 years straight.
will our power grid be able to handle that by 2030? is this something we hear any chatter about?
As you financial geniuses know, Apple is the future of Tesla, i.e. a niche company catering only to those few people who want status brands, high in profits, low in revenue and market share. This is inevitable since other companies can build everything it does more cheaply.
Sally, your view seems to be that EVs will never pass gas powered cars (in our lifetimes), and that’s fine as an opinion.
But EVs will surely gain as a percent of all vehicles sold, you have to agree with that.
Do you think Toyota and or Honda will surpass Tesla in EV sales as they put their leverage into it?
I know this post was not directed at me, but Honda and Toyota will absolutely pass Tesla in EV sales. They may not be the first to do so, but they will pass Tesla for sure.
Care to tell us how that is possible?
You can't just blink your eyes and batteries appear out of nowhere.
The same goes for EV engineering expertise and EV production facilities. The same goes for software, where Tesla has an enormous lead.
There is a reason why Tesla has a market cap three times that of Toyota. Investors think Tesla has a much brighter future.
I certainly agree that EVs will gain as a percent of all vehicles sold. In fact that percentage will increase substantially. I ususally try to temper FAt Hurts' enthusiasm that EVs's dominace is coming quite soon. Fat Hurts, against other experts, believes that 90% of all vehicles sold in 2030 will have a plug. I am curious also to see how Toyota (who I believe is working with Subaru on EV development) and Audi/Volkswagen will do producing electric vehicles. And how the Ford 150 Lightning will go over with cowboys and Texans. I think the F-150 has been the best-selling vehicle for like 40 years straight.
will our power grid be able to handle that by 2030? is this something we hear any chatter about?
It's something people chatter about. But anyone who takes a look at it sees that it won't be a problem.
EVs typically charge at night when there is plenty of excess grid capacity. It will take some adjustment, but it's not a very big challenge.
Sally, your view seems to be that EVs will never pass gas powered cars (in our lifetimes), and that’s fine as an opinion.
But EVs will surely gain as a percent of all vehicles sold, you have to agree with that.
Do you think Toyota and or Honda will surpass Tesla in EV sales as they put their leverage into it?
I certainly agree that EVs will gain as a percent of all vehicles sold. In fact that percentage will increase substantially. I ususally try to temper FAt Hurts' enthusiasm that EVs's dominace is coming quite soon. Fat Hurts, against other experts, believes that 90% of all vehicles sold in 2030 will have a plug. I am curious also to see how Toyota (who I believe is working with Subaru on EV development) and Audi/Volkswagen will do producing electric vehicles. And how the Ford 150 Lightning will go over with cowboys and Texans. I think the F-150 has been the best-selling vehicle for like 40 years straight.
By 2030, 90% of all light duty vehicles sold in the US will have a plug. (I'm including PHEVs)
This will happen even faster in Europe.
The only thing that might slow us down is availability of battery manufacturing and raw materials.
Maybe a year ago, I had to argue that EVs were superior to gas cars. Hardly anyone argues with me about that any more. So now it's just a matter of how fast we can make them and sell them. That's the limiting factor to EV adoption.
I certainly agree that EVs will gain as a percent of all vehicles sold. In fact that percentage will increase substantially. I ususally try to temper FAt Hurts' enthusiasm that EVs's dominace is coming quite soon. Fat Hurts, against other experts, believes that 90% of all vehicles sold in 2030 will have a plug. I am curious also to see how Toyota (who I believe is working with Subaru on EV development) and Audi/Volkswagen will do producing electric vehicles. And how the Ford 150 Lightning will go over with cowboys and Texans. I think the F-150 has been the best-selling vehicle for like 40 years straight.
will our power grid be able to handle that by 2030? is this something we hear any chatter about?
We won’t have to worry about that. No way that 90% of vehicles sold by 2030 will be EVs.
We won’t have to worry about that. No way that 90% of vehicles sold by 2030 will be EVs.
Watch and learn.
NYC (and surrounding area) has about 3 to 5 million cars. How are they going to charge all those cars? The city's space is maxxed out already. Where are they going to put the charging stations?
NYC (and surrounding area) has about 3 to 5 million cars. How are they going to charge all those cars? The city's space is maxxed out already. Where are they going to put the charging stations?
They will put plugs in the places where people park their cars. And you don't need to wire every space. In NYC, you might only need 1 in 10 spaces to have a plug. But you won't need that many until the late 2030's as the remaining gas cars head for the junkyard.
