Why the CAS Decision on Shelby Houlihan Should be Thrown Out

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

She is banned. But why do you want to call her a "drug cheat"? The AIU didn't and the CAS didn't.

It's not really the end. It's not just about Houlihan, because there will be future athletes in the same situation, unable to meet the burden of proving the source, when the primary evidence has long been consumed, or discarded.

A drug cheat is someone who has incurred a doping violation. Except to deniers like yourself.

Methinks the loony doth protest too much.

Armstronglivs wrote:

A drug cheat is someone who has incurred a doping violation. Except to deniers like yourself.

That looks like you wrote it.

I was looking for something authoritative with substance.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

A drug cheat is someone who has incurred a doping violation. Except to deniers like yourself.

That looks like you wrote it.

I was looking for something authoritative with substance.

You need casual obsever to casually obseve.

He's ya go to guy on authoritative substance and compleeeeeetly impartial. Honest guv.

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Oh the irony coming from the Mayor of La La land, who has consistently failed to connect his ideas to reality, with specificity, when so challenged.

https://www.seekpng.com/ipng/u2q8t4q8o0t4y3i1_lazytown-mayor-milford-meanswell-4-alcalde-de-lazy/

Another howl from the asylum.

Says the liar and cheat and the one that brags that he does not read about stuff prior to posting.

Armstronglivs wrote:

sanootage wrote:

You fail to grasp that she may have been rightly convicted but is not a cheat.

The real end.

Rightly convicted of a doping violation = drug cheat.

They conviction is based being in the system, cheating/ intent is not part of it.

Read the Code; oh you won’t.

Intellectual bigot.

Oh gosh, you're going to make me explain my whole schtick. You know how the owners of this website have the puerile habit of calling dopers they don't like "drug cheat __________"? While, of course, not doing that for dopers they DO like. In fact, they're even defending Shelby.

Anyway, that's about 50 percent of my reasoning. The other 50 is that Shelby is a banned drug cheat.

Adam Smith, Communist wrote:

Oh gosh, you're going to make me explain my whole schtick. You know how the owners of this website have the puerile habit of calling dopers they don't like "drug cheat __________"? While, of course, not doing that for dopers they DO like. In fact, they're even defending Shelby.

Anyway, that's about 50 percent of my reasoning. The other 50 is that Shelby is a banned drug cheat.

sanootage wrote:

Adam Smith, Communist wrote:

Oh gosh, you're going to make me explain my whole schtick. You know how the owners of this website have the puerile habit of calling dopers they don't like "drug cheat __________"? While, of course, not doing that for dopers they DO like. In fact, they're even defending Shelby.

Anyway, that's about 50 percent of my reasoning. The other 50 is that Shelby is a banned drug cheat.

It had not escaped my thoughts the Letsrun owners have done exactly what you point out.

Selective bigotry is a very childlike phase that most grow out of.

Adam Smith, Communist wrote:

Oh gosh, you're going to make me explain my whole schtick. You know how the owners of this website have the puerile habit of calling dopers they don't like "drug cheat __________"? While, of course, not doing that for dopers they DO like. In fact, they're even defending Shelby.

Anyway, that's about 50 percent of my reasoning. The other 50 is that Shelby is a banned drug cheat.

I wouldn’t make you explain your whole schtick, but point to something authoritative.

If you are unable to provide a rational explanation, I wouldn’t expect you to explain it otherwise, but probably leave that up to psychologists to explain this need.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

A drug cheat is someone who has incurred a doping violation. Except to deniers like yourself.

That looks like you wrote it.

I was looking for something authoritative with substance.

Basic English is beyond you. As is truth, fact and logic.

sanootage wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Another howl from the asylum.

Says the liar and cheat and the one that brags that he does not read about stuff prior to posting.

I don't read the irrelevant garbage you base your lunatic postings on.

rekrunner wrote:

Adam Smith, Communist wrote:

Oh gosh, you're going to make me explain my whole schtick. You know how the owners of this website have the puerile habit of calling dopers they don't like "drug cheat __________"? While, of course, not doing that for dopers they DO like. In fact, they're even defending Shelby.

Anyway, that's about 50 percent of my reasoning. The other 50 is that Shelby is a banned drug cheat.

I wouldn’t make you explain your whole schtick, but point to something authoritative.

If you are unable to provide a rational explanation, I wouldn’t expect you to explain it otherwise, but probably leave that up to psychologists to explain this need.

Psychologists are what you need.

rekrunner wrote:

Adam Smith, Communist wrote:

Drug cheat Shelby Houlihan was banned. People wish she wasn't. The end.

She is banned. But why do you want to call her a "drug cheat"? The AIU didn't and the CAS didn't.

Do the AIU and/or CAS typically use "drug cheat" in their verbiage?

how does that work? wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

A drug cheat is someone who has incurred a doping violation. Except to deniers like yourself.

Methinks the loony doth protest too much.

And here we have Jon the loony Orange.

sanootage wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Rightly convicted of a doping violation = drug cheat.

They conviction is based being in the system, cheating/ intent is not part of it.

Read the Code; oh you won’t.

Intellectual bigot.

She was deemed to have committed an intentional violation under the Code because she could not show accidental contamination. Once intent can be imputed - as it was - that is the same as cheating. But I've lost you again - your protozoan intelligence can't follow that.

Armstronglivs wrote:

sanootage wrote:

They conviction is based being in the system, cheating/ intent is not part of it.

Read the Code; oh you won’t.

Intellectual bigot.

She was deemed to have committed an intentional violation under the Code because she could not show accidental contamination. Once intent can be imputed - as it was - that is the same as cheating. But I've lost you again - your protozoan intelligence can't follow that.

Read the rules, then you will fully realise how stupid your contextual lies are.

Oh! Silly of me to ask such to a person who refused to read read them.

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

I wouldn’t make you explain your whole schtick, but point to something authoritative.

If you are unable to provide a rational explanation, I wouldn’t expect you to explain it otherwise, but probably leave that up to psychologists to explain this need.

Psychologists are what you need.

Someone to teach you how to read and not lie and cheat

Probably coincidental, but noteworthy anyhow.

Lord Coe, on December 20, 2020, promised that being “high profile no longer protects you from the investigative powers of the sport.”

Five days earlier, before any of this was public, Houlihan tested positive.

Once again, likely unrelated, but an interesting coincidence.

BB in the groove.

Barracking Your Bama wrote:

Probably coincidental, but noteworthy anyhow.

Lord Coe, on December 20, 2020, promised that being “high profile no longer protects you from the investigative powers of the sport.”

Five days earlier, before any of this was public, Houlihan tested positive.

Once again, likely unrelated, but an interesting coincidence.

BB in the groove.

You're reference is to Coe stating that investigations made by the AIU would not be influenced by the status of the athlete in question, and somethign about Coe believing it has restored some confidence among athletes that cheaters would be caught and punished appropriately.

Indeed an interestingly timed statement and support of AIU.