Agree, and the fact that the official key to the test has been convinced of fraud in another case is a fact that's very disturbing and causes lack of trust in WADA and CAS..
Agree, and the fact that the official key to the test has been convinced of fraud in another case is a fact that's very disturbing and causes lack of trust in WADA and CAS..
TeaDrinker wrote:
What odds would you give that Courtney has an Olympic Gold Medal in her mailbox before Paris 2024?
None. How would one go about doing this?
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Pure stupidity. There is simple no way that Frerichs could run that hard and that early and sustain the pace to the end. As soon as she took off I knew she couldn't win. She panicked and ran for second or third. She was capable of winning this race if she ran smarter. She has a second in the world champs and a PR 0f 9:00. She could have won.
paul72 wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Beating Kiyeng, Yavi and Coburn to me means it was a great move. It took a career-best performance from Chemutai and if Frerichs had won it would've been because of the jump she got on the field with the move. If she leaves it late, I doubt she gets Silver.
Agree...great guts race by Frerichs...definitely deserved her medal...yeah the 3rd and 4th runners were closing hard but ran out of room. She had to make an early move to medal and it paid off!
Or does losing mean it was a poor move?
Nobody is talking about leaving it late. we are talking about running a 70 instead of a 68 so you can close in 68 instead of rigging it up and running a 74. She just slightly over did it and odds are it cost her 2-4 seconds of time which may or may not have cost her the win.
complete picture wrote:
JO Coach wrote:
So who has the better resume?
Coburn with an Olympic Bronze + WC Silver + WC Gold, 9 consecutive national championships, 15 of top-20 US times
or
Frerichs with an Olympic Silver + WC Silver + AR, zero national championships, 5 of top-20 US times
FIFY
I think if we're focusing solely on international competition, you give Coburn a slight edge for OG 3rd, WC 1st, WC 2nd, and CC 1st whereas Frerichs has OG 2nd, WC 2nd, and CC 2nd. If Frerichs takes a single WC or CC 1st, IMO Frerichs gets the edge at that point in the strict international resume discussion. If we're talking total resume, its Coburn until if, when Frerichs can win 3- 4 US titles or 1-2, if she breaks through and runs something crazy like 8:50.
Bottom line: Theyre both legends and US and world running's better for them being around. Jager, too. For years, I watched steeple world champs and olympics without any American runners being competitive. Congrats to Frerich. Heart goes out to Coburn but she'll be back.
You know what was sad? On TV they showed the watch party for Coburn before the race and they were all excited. Imagine how bad they must have felt.
Brilliant race by Courtney. I wanted gold for her so bad but we’ll take silver!
ddidididid wrote:
paul72 wrote:
Agree...great guts race by Frerichs...definitely deserved her medal...yeah the 3rd and 4th runners were closing hard but ran out of room. She had to make an early move to medal and it paid off!
Or does losing mean it was a poor move?
Nobody is talking about leaving it late. we are talking about running a 70 instead of a 68 so you can close in 68 instead of rigging it up and running a 74. She just slightly over did it and odds are it cost her 2-4 seconds of time which may or may not have cost her the win.
You should map this out on a napkin at lunchtime bubble brains
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Congrats to Courtney on a very gutsy race, and I certainly believe she did it by hard work and desire, no doubts about that, nothing more.