Pete Julian the genius coach - Brazier has a broken foot...

The post you are responding to really sounds like someone who has never watched track before, let alone Brazier.

Totally agree.

Just watch any of his other races and then his last 400 -- his form was a mess like he was intensely favoring something, likely his foot, through his cycle.

He's a professional and his comments show exactly that as you just explained above.

Donovan Brazier and Jordan Hasay for redemption in 2024! Two of Pete’s top athletes. That’s the trials system for you.

gretchen weiners wrote:

Speaking from experience from running and racing on an unconfirmed at the time sacral stress fracture, you can typically run one good race on it. Adrenaline is a powerful painkiller and I raced an a10k PR without pain and then barely got through the cool down and ran another time trial a week later and knew something was really wrong when the pain didn't go away. I'm guessing if Pete and Donovan knew he had a stress fx, they were probably hedging their bets to make the team and then cross train like absolute crazy to get on the line at Tokyo.

Good points.

Another explanation - he really couldn't get his head in the game and got obliterated, so it made more sense for his reputation, team and sponsor to come up with an excuse. That's what I would recommend. I'm seeing so much resistance to this idea but I don't get why it doesn't sound plausible to people. He was certainly not visibly injured, no limp and no grimace. He just couldn't summon the hurt, period. It can happen to anyone, it's just that his stellar blow up after all the hype and fast running seems impossible.

I guess Tinman and Pete Julian should be blamed for the fact that their athletes happen to breakdown … maybe Julian should be fired and raked over the message boards for weeks. Tough crowd this LRC …

Makes sense. He did not look right physically. Not the best Trials for the Julian group -- Brazier finishes last. Jenkins drops out of the 10k. Efraimson runs poorly doesn't make the finals. Rowbury injured DNS...

Agree there was no issue with his tactics here, he kept himself well positioned for the first 600m. Watching the race again, I see no difference in his form except maybe he looked a bit flat, but even that is not uncommon with his long stride. He bombed, period. Head was not in the game, you can speculate why but that is the reason for this terrible performance.

He had bad tactics. Needed to stick right on Jewett or sit back in the pack. He was in no mans land practically that whole race.

attn trollminator.

rewind the home stretch and watch that a few more times. he's hurt period. unclear how badly. but his stride is clearly messed up

Salvitore - Do you think this injury could have been affected by his diet.

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So in a field of possible unknowns (what we do know is that he didn't run to his potential) - you want to contend that his "head wasn't in the game" - even though this was the race that could have led to the biggest moment in his career (contending for an Olympic title and changing his life and legacy forever). Even though he's been on the biggest stage before where his head was in the game - he just let it slip in maybe the most important race of his life to date?

On the other hand, he looked physically labored on the track (mechanically, as others have noted they witnessed too) AND he was visibly limping after the race but not in a way that would draw attention to himself or the fact, therefore suggesting he is legitimately hurt.

And your conclusion was that it's the prior and not the latter. My god, the logic of some people is absolutely astounding.

It's possible. Cucumbers are a dangerous fruit - even though commonly mistaken for a vegetable. Particularly when combined with tuna fish which I have heard is especially troublesome...

L.O.A. wrote:

Unless you have proof this is a waste of a front page thread. Speculation only.

Yeah - completely implausible that the world champion basically hobbled across the line last in the Olympic trials final and had an injury that affected him.

JBaller33 wrote:

Brazier clearly wasn't himself and the hitch in his stride was present in both the semifinal and final. A stress fracture in the foot would make sense. Makes me respect the guy even more that he gutted it out and tried to make the Olympic team. That's how much it meant to him.

Julian clearly isn't working for middle distance runners. Brazier ran 1:43.55 while still in college, so Julian has effectively improved his best time by 1.2 second in 5 years and gotten Brazier injured a lot. I think that Brazier needs to take a page out of Clayton Murphy's book and go back to his college coaches in Francique and Henry (Hoppel has also never left his college coach). He has to see that they just developed another world class 800 meter runner in Athing Mu.

He was world champion with Julian as his coach less than 2 yrs ago...

Burrito_Sombrero wrote:

Should’ve gone old school with the Jasari or the Eldoret. Kipketer style.

Braziers an awesome runner. Like someone else posted, “you don’t run 1:42 by accident.”

Good luck to him. He’ll be back.

Sorry to be a bearer of bad news but there's been plenty of guys that ran 1:42 only once. Lovers of brazier may have to face he ran his lifetime best. Nothing to be ashamed about.

Now about the soo many sobbing fanboys here... really should be ashamed of themselves Jeez. Get a life.

What are you supposed to do when the US qualification schedule dictates that you must run the trials to do the Olympics?

He doesn't have much choice but to run. Can always rest from now until Tokyo and hope for the best.

PJ running an athlete through a stress fracture?

Put it alongside what I've heard out of Beaverton - that Konstanze got stress fracture in her sacrum this spring (hence why she hasn't raced, wasn't at German trials), and the stories of her getting yanked out of rehab.

Group might have an injury management problem.

migroc wrote:

Tar Heel Runner wrote:

Craig Engels Instagram story seems to indicate that Brazier is injured and based on what I saw in that race he is injured. A 1:42 world champ does not blow up like that if they are healthy.

He also looked like he was limping down the homestretch. But he was walking fine after the race.

I believe the stress fracture story.

Clearly limping in the last 100m.....surprised the commentators didn't mention it.