murphy with the recent 145 and on the upswing was a betting favorite for the team
murphy with the recent 145 and on the upswing was a betting favorite for the team
Ok7272 wrote:
I hardly would say anyone really failed here. It's the most competitive country in the world to make an Olympic team except maybe Kenya or Ethiopia. I wasn't even rooting against him, I was just rooting for the other 3 guys more. A World Championship gold medal is as impressive as an Olympics finals appearance. Be disappointed all you want, but there's a decent chance the three who made it might medal anyway
Not only is a WC gold medal as impressive as an Olympic finals appearance, I would argue it is in fact MORE impressive than an Olympic gold medal. Among athletes, WC is superior to OG because OG is not directly focused on having the best competition but also on the spectacle, selection process, etc. Randomness comes in with the Olympics, though it is a more famous brand to the general public. I look at WC equal or above Olympics.
I tend to take the opposite view. I think Donovan has been training too much to improve his strength that he has lost his main weapon which is his speed!! He’s not relaxed going through 400 anymore!! You think many of those guys besides murphy have run mid 3.30s fir 1500 like Brazier?!! No way.
Seriously I feel sad for Donovan.
The big thing to blame here is COVID and the break that caused this pandemic in the world.
You lost all credibility claiming 😂😂😂 a world gold better than Olympic gold. No track athlete would tell you that. It’s all about the Olympics this what people sacrifice for the most.
CopperRunner wrote:
IMO it was a lot more earned by Murphy. He’s truly been a dark horse for these trials. I’d be more annoyed if brazier ran a 1:42, dusted everyone and was boastful about it, because that’s what was expected to happen. Murphy just pulled a huge upset and he knows it.
white guy= more earned.
They all earn it numbness
Was never a believer in his acension to the throne of Rushida. Brazier had a couple of fast years. Now those are history for now.
AnimeLoverBoy27 wrote:
You lost all credibility claiming 😂😂😂 a world gold better than Olympic gold. No track athlete would tell you that. It’s all about the Olympics this what people sacrifice for the most.
^^^^
Completely true, and AnimeLoverBoy27 is a complete clown-boi for trying to rationalize otherwise.
....DB's "reign" of the 800 from 2018-2020 was during the weakest period of 800 competition since the period between Kipketer and Rudisha.
wejo wrote:
alphas only wrote:
Hopefully this is a wake up call. No more football talk bullish!t. You wanna run, you make it your f**king life. End of discussion.
Football talk? I'm gutted for the guy. He made no excuses in the interview after. Said he probably won't run the 1500. Wouldn't say injuries were the reason.
He was dealing with some type of injury for sure over those last 150 meters. No way he'll be in the 1500. Hope it's not real serious.
He didn't look as dominant in the rounds. There was a side comment made on TV about it. Secondly, he made a huge surge around 350m when the USC guy had a gap. I think this was his mistake. He should have gradually closed that gap.
I also found it strange how far back he was to begin with. That is usually a tell that the runner is not feeling great. A fit Brazier is up front.
That said, the 1500m is now extra interesting. He is in full desperation mode.
runnerman69 wrote:
People were sleeping on Murphy end of discussion.
People were sleeping on Murphy winning, with Donovan brazier running over seven seconds slower than his pr? You do have Crystal ball. I doubt anybody slept on Clayton Murphy running in the 143's.
Fasterer wrote:
AnimeLoverBoy27 wrote:
You lost all credibility claiming 😂😂😂 a world gold better than Olympic gold. No track athlete would tell you that. It’s all about the Olympics this what people sacrifice for the most.
^^^^
Completely true, and AnimeLoverBoy27 is a complete clown-boi for trying to rationalize otherwise.
....DB's "reign" of the 800 from 2018-2020 was during the weakest period of 800 competition since the period between Kipketer and Rudisha.
He ran 1:42.34 AR in a World final!!! That’s insane and I’d argue as good as anyone other than Rudisha since Kipketer, maaaaaybe just behind Amos
He’s 26 but has been around the block
hobbyjogger18 wrote:
Evan Jagermeister wrote:
Absolutely. Afterwords I had to ask my buddy, did Jewett win or Murphy? I was too absorbed simultaneously watching Harris strive and Brazier go backwards.
Is Eliud about to be the only returning male distance event champ from Rio?? Come on Centro
Yeah Harris and Murphy walking together was sad. I have no idea why but everytime Harris is in a race I just have to root for him.
And Centro is going to mop the floor with these guys in the 1500. He gets too much hate and slept just like Murphy being called done. Takes it easy just going for big Q's through heats, takes the W in the final to make the team.
Same I always root for him too and can’t put my finger on it
hobbyjogger18 wrote:
Coach J wrote:
Talent only takes you so far. Bragging about long runs of 8 miles might just come back to bite you when the race doesn’t quite go as you planned.
Strength beats speed. We've seen this so many times. Murphy had the W before that gun even went off. I think Brazier just panicked. None of them expected that surge and gap from Jewitt. Brazier panicked, made too strong of a surge too early and it cost him at the end. He didn't look injured, he just tightened up and went lactic. It happens in this 800 you have to prepare for nothing to go to plan and Brazier didn't do that.
I'm sorry but you guys just haven't watched him run before,saying he panicked just doesn't jive. First of all brazier is known for starting his dominance very early on the second lap, that's literally what he does. Second of all it's not like he ran two seconds slower, he was over seven seconds off his pr, that's not panicking that's something wrong with him. World champions don't panic.
It also looked like after the chase pack passed him he struggled mentally to recover and that's what also lead to his rapid degradation in the final stretch.
When you're the favorite and you see your chance to make the team suddenly evaporate you're not going to fight hard for a couple of spots. For Brazier being off the team is the same as DFL. No reason to put your energy into fighting for meaningless spots.
What happened? Wait, so Brazier didn't shatter the world record by a second like he was supposed to any day now? oh goodness
Being a 1:42 runner doesn't just go away in your mid-20s. If he is healthy and is training properly he can still run really fast.
Talent doesn't just go away.
I haven't yet watched the race, but my college coach told me a couple of really important things about the 800. 1) You only get so many moves (usually not many, one or two!) and 2) When you make a move, push the accelerator down and don't just slam shift into it.
One of these two pieces of advice he had hear from Mark Everett or Johnny Gray, both of whom obviously knew a bit about the 800 (as did coach). From what it sounds like in the description, Brazier spent some extra energy. Even for a great runner like him, the Olympic trials aren't something you can make a ton of mistakes in in the 800.
Wasn't he injured this year? He barely raced and pulled out of a few races he was supposed to run, which isn't really like him, I wonder if whatever that was all about caught up with him. Something was definitely off, he looked like he was struggling the whole time even though he only came threw in 51, which is easy money for him.