Molly Seidel just said on social media she pulled a hamstring. #whywehavealternates
Molly Seidel just said on social media she pulled a hamstring. #whywehavealternates
TrackCoach wrote:
track chick wrote:
Some women run better after giving birth, it's kind of like blood boosting...
I have always heard that, but I don't think they mean running the biggest race of your life 6 months after giving birth. With that said, women respond to pregnancy differently, some women gain only about 15 pounds, they are active to some extent literally days before giving birth and right back at it days afterwards. Btw, women who are smaller tend to gain more weight. The deal is, if she does gain a lot of weight and/or has a c-section, it is game- over. - I wish the U.S. had a 'show fitness' clause. I remember one year we sent a hobbled Ritz to a global championship and he could not ever finish the race.
I asked a couple serious runners I know that are also doctors about the post pregnancy performance boost. They said physiologically there are absolutely no benefits or changes that result from a pregnancy that would benefit a runner. They said there are physiologic changes from pregnancy that would be detrimental to running.
I am not aware of any studies that have documented a post pregnancy performance boost.
There may be other unknown psychological factors involved.
Each pregnancy and every woman is different. My wife never experienced any post pregnancy performance boosts.
She jokes that after 20 years she is still waiting for these to kick in .
You’re so old. Things have changed since way back when. Go and hibernate or whatever it is that dinosaurs do. Let the young and strong take it from here.
800 dude wrote:
Aouita 84 wrote: Did I miss the racist over-tone in the post? Because two of the women are black? Both of whom were not favorites to make the team and the third was running her first marathon?
Because if we were hand picking a team based on proven quality, it's actually the white woman who wouldn't make it. We're talking about probably the best road racer in the US and an Olympic Silver medalist. Before the Trials, you'd have been an idiot if you didn't have Aliphine in your first tier of likely qualifiers. You could maybe get a pass for leaving out Sally because she hasn't done a lot lately, but she undeniably has the talent (and if you were paying close attention, you'd have known that her Berlin race was a workout, which meant she was more serious about running than she'd been in a while).
Aouita 84 wrote:The dream team of Hall, Sisson, and whoever else (Linden?) didn't show up and choked.
This is exactly the point. Hall and Sisson are not dream team material by any objective measure. They are solid runners who had a decent shot at the team, but they are objectively inferior runners to Aliphine and Sally. Which raises the question why they're getting all the attention. Des I'll give you a pass on for sentimental reasons.
Incidentally, I'm right of center, hate identity politics, and am generally very un-woke. But even I think what's going on here is pretty obvious.
Well said.
The "Dream Team" of Linden, Hasay, and Hall are very experienced and seasoned runners and were huge disappointments. Yes, I did have Aliphine in the "possible" qualifier group but she needed help in terms of other runners choking. As it turns out, that's what happened. In a perfect world with all potential legit qualifiers running their best, she would be on the outside looking in.
I'm also right of center and hate identity politics, too bad the underlying racial tone has polluted one of if not the most "un-racist" sports on the planet.
"Go Run One"
Paul Reverewear wrote:
You’re so old. Things have changed since way back when. Go and hibernate or whatever it is that dinosaurs do. Let the young and strong take it from here.
Hey Green Horn!
Where are you "Taking it"? I'm guessing you have ZERO experience in running and specifically ZERO experience in the subject matter on this thread.
Bottom line is that Aliphine has and is taking a substantial risk with regard to being 100% physically and mentally prepared to run her absolute best in the upcoming (hopefully) summer Olympics. If her goal was to only qualify for the games and having a family was and is a priority, mission accomplished!
"Go Run One"
Green horn? Haven’t heard that in a while. I have run four real, not virtual, marathons this year. I haven’t been pregnant so I can’t speak to that experience. Have you?
Paul Reverewear wrote:
Green horn? Haven’t heard that in a while. I have run four real, not virtual, marathons this year. I haven’t been pregnant so I can’t speak to that experience. Have you?
Just curious as to your comment of "things have changed since way back then". I'm not quite understanding your point. Women still get pregnant, still have babies, and still need a specific period of time to recover. Right? Some recover quicker than others depending on the pregnancy. Right? C-section requires major surgery and more recovery time. Right? Regular birth (vaginal) usually is less traumatic and the Mom goes home within a day or two. Right? Recovery is much quicker with less downtime. Right? What has changed in 20 or so years? What has changed in regards to a world-class marathoner jeopardizing their fitness level both physically and mentally to compete in arguably the most important race of their life due to NOT being able to log much-needed miles and workouts over a 9 month (closer to 7 months) period to be able to race for 26.2 miles?
Answer: NOTHING! Shoes? Nutrition? Hot Yoga? Keto diet? Wall mirror workouts? Am I missing something?
My dentist ran 4 "real" marathons this year. Just because you own a hammer doesn't make you a carpenter. Did you train 100-125mi a week to prepare? 10 mi tempo runs? 2+ hour-long runs? half marathon and or 10k/15k races at marathon race pace? I'm thinking not. These are some of the workouts that need to be done within that 7 month period before having a kid in order to be prepared to run 26.2 miles. I won't even comment on the fact you've never been pregnant. So, my point is don't post Jack-A** comments on subjects you know nothing about. FYI- "Green Horn" is a term used back in the "Dinosaur" days.
"Go Run One"
Becoming a mother does indeed result in subsequent athletic improvements.
Case in point: Sara Hall
Maximus wrote:
a mom weighs in wrote:
I am not an Olympian or even close, but I was not even close to good racing shape 6 months postpartum. Around the 1 year Mark I was close. 18 months was probably when I was 100%.
I had c sections though, so maybe my recovery took longer.
Do you not understand the massive difference between an Olympic level athlete and yourself, both physically and more importantly, mentally? Not to mention, running is her full time job and she can focus more on recovery and would have access to trainers, physical therapists, massage therapists, nannies, etc. Why you would even try to make a comparison between your self and an olympian is amusing. On top of all that, as you mentioned, you had a C section, which is considered a major surgery and would take much longer to recover from than a regular birth. So I think she is going to be just fine and will be ready to compete at 100% much quicker than you were.
You have no idea if she will need a C Section or not. Emergency C sections happen all the time. I love the use of the term “regular” birth here too. The correct term is *vaginal* birth. I hope your wife doesn’t need a c section someday, but if she does, I highly recommend you don’t refer that child as having had an “irregular” birth.
That's life wrote:
adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:
It was planned. if
PS: we planned this knowing that we would have 6+ months to get ready for Tokyo Olympics!
is enough time is hard to say. I am going with no.... Seems like ~18months is closer for most people...
Kara Goucher ran her PR in Boston only 7 months post partem. Aliphine will be just fine.
Just fine huh? That being said, if anyone deserves to get screwed by Aliphine, it's Des.
I am wondering, where are all the people that said that Tuliamuk would come back strong from her pregnancy?
curiosity wrote:
I am wondering, where are all the people that said that Tuliamuk would come back strong from her pregnancy?
Probably fighting for social justice somewhere else on the internet.