Lagat lives in the United States. He pays taxes in the United States.
Therefore he is contributing to the society in which he lives, this he has earned the right to be called an American.
Mohammad Ahmed does not live in Canada. He does not pay taxes in Canada.
He used Canada as a means to get citizenship so that he would never have to go back to Somalia.
He is not a Canadian. Nor will he ever be, nor does he want to be.
How is Canada doing with the covid-19?
How many black people got killed by policemen in Canada in the last 5 years?
Answer these questions, and we may know whether or not Mo is thinking about moving back there.
Another Somalian that mysteriously improved after being an average runner. For Canada, is this the Ben Johnson of the 5000?
All athletes sponsored by Nike are on PEDs.
Synthetic, non-detectable PEDs that are developed by Nike in their labs, specifically designed for that athletes height, weight, metabolic profile, event and VO2 Max.
Nike, being the worlds most richest and powerful sport brand, does not just sponsor an athlete and leave him to his own devices.
Nike ensures that anyone who is representing their company, rises to the highest level, thus taking the brand with them.
miss piggy wrote:
He used Canada as a means to get citizenship so that he would never have to go back to Somalia.
That’s one clever eleven year old.
miss piggy wrote:
He is not a Canadian. Nor will he ever be, nor does he want to be.
Tell me how you really feel ???
To Miss Piggy;
Mo-speed does pay Canadian taxes, since he is NOT an American citizen. My brother is a dual citizen and he pays both (lived in the US for 20 years). Secondly, It is up to the Canadian government to determine whether he is Canadian, fortunately your opinion does not matter.
Getting back to MO and his accomplishments. Running 12.47 off a PR/PB of 3.39 for 1500m says either he is doping (a typical LR response to this situation, a la Radcliffe, etc.) or that he is maxing his ability at this distance despite his apparent lack of speed (hence the moniker Mo-speed). It shows that others with better relative speed who also max their abilities (such as Bekele) are likely to run faster (like 12.37). I think it is safe to assume that Bekele could have run even faster if perhaps he had the consistent coaching as had Mo under Jerry S. for the past number of years. He was a product more of ability than training per se.
Also, that I see Justyn Knight similarly getting down to Mo's level in a number of years, since he is faster than Mo, assuming that he can stay healthy and is committed to a good 5 years more of training in order to progress and make up for his lack of training background.
At one point a number of years ago I thought that Mo (like Bairu had done) might move up to the marathon. Seems like a good decision to NOT have made that transition at this point.
Speaking to Mo at an awards banquet a few years ago, I was impressed that he was not in this to merely be a Canadian champion or record-holder, but that being amongst the best in the world was his reason for doing this sport. I told him that this was a great attitude (see Houlihan and her goals for reference) and is partly why he has succeeded where others (nameless) seemed satisfied with being a big fish in a small pond (either CIS or NCAA or just Nationally), and failed to progress to the levels of their ability. I have seen a number of top class athletes and am often galled at those who profess to be serious but push comes to shove don't seem to have the persistence to follow through to maximize their potential.
jabouk wrote:
Ah yep Ieft him out, was only perusing the last couple seasons. Definitely agree that this validates Moh's bronze, now his PR is comparable with the best on the circuit
Why do you need a fast PB to 'validate' a medal? That makes absolutely no sense.
On the day, in the race that mattered, Ahmed got himself a medal. That is what is important.
12:47 is just nice to have.
How many lies are you going to spew?
non-physicist wrote:
bengel wrote:
that calculator is completely off shell.
Question: what do "on-shell/off-shell" really mean? I know they're supposed to mean states or particles that do/don't satisfy classical equations of motion, but I've seen it as referring to states which do/don't satisfy any eigenvalue equation. Is it just something you guys say to pretend you're talking about actual particles?
Ventolin's 3k predictions are way too fast. They are always predicting low to mid 7:20s for runners when in fact no one has run faster than 7:27 since 2007 (Bekele ran 7:25 and 7:26 that year) and no one else other than two proven drug cheats (Mourhit and Saidi-Sief both in 2000) has done so since the EPO 1990s. Alamirew ran 7:27 in 2011.
You're a bad troll but for the people who might fall for it: Moh came over as an 11, completed middle and high school in Canada, and then went to the US for university and trains in Portland.
He's a Canadian citizen (not American), so he pays Canadian taxes. I'm not sure what the confusion is here. Black and white immigrants alike allowed to be Canadians.
You pay taxes in the country that you live and work.
He is living and receiving funds from his sponsor in the United States. Therefore he pays taxes in the United States.
I promise you that.
miss piggy wrote:
Let me guess:
You are a politically correct social justice warrior, who can’t handle the truth because mommy didn’t spoon feed you some politically correct baby food this morning. Am I right?
So I accurately point out that you’ve lied repeatedly and your reaction is reflexive and nonsensical ad hominem attacks?
I’ve yet to see you be right about anything. What does fact checking have to do with SJWs? Answer: nothing.
Can we please talk about how Rory Linkletter is NOT Canadian instead of Moh.
Only time Rory has been to Canada is for Nationals....LAME
arte wrote:
The first thing that came to mind was the CCES suspending doping testing of Canadian athletes between 27th March and 13th July(!)
A sad thing, to have become so cynical.
The first thing which came to my mind is how much time Mo spent in Canada this year at all.
I mean validate in the sense that now he is literally among the fastest men to ever run 5000 meters. A global medal is amazing especially considering the field of talent these days (and he came close with fourth In that weird DQ heavy Rio 5000) but now he can also fully demonstrate the fitness that he had (or even better) in these time trial conditions
It also more confirms what posters above were saying about the 5000 - with the scarcity of good pacers, fast ones like Paris 12 and Brussels 18 are tough. All the global medalists over the last few years have had demonstrated sub 12:50 ability or almost definitely could like Farah or Edris or a bunch more who never got to hop in a fast race.
I think these TC time trials are THE optimal way to run fast and we will see a lot more of these - maybe intersquad to make things more legitimate- while record chases progress. Good pacing is so important
miss piggy wrote:
You pay taxes in the country that you live and work.
He is living and receiving funds from his sponsor in the United States. Therefore he pays taxes in the United States.
I promise you that.
Do you have a problem with Caleb Jones living in Canada? Can you promise us that he pays taxes in Canada and not in America?
Great run! But will Canada send him to the Olympics?
Jager should have finished
If 12:37 Bekele was in that race with the magic shoes of today he would literally be running sub 4 minute mile pace for the full 5k