cheesewiz wrote:
Pandemic shut down is not the time to try to “build viewership”.
Yes it is, actually. It's the perfect opportunity to build viewership, or at least serve people who are already fans.
cheesewiz wrote:
Pandemic shut down is not the time to try to “build viewership”.
Yes it is, actually. It's the perfect opportunity to build viewership, or at least serve people who are already fans.
This is confusing to me.
If they (BTC) want to have a time trial and are encouraging the athletes to post about it. say how excited they are to don their uniforms, and so forth...why wouldn't they want to stream it?
It's at a high school track, so if the high school is saying for xx reason we don't want ANYONE in the facility to stream this time trial, why would they keep the time trial at this high school?
Is the track extra fast? Is it set up already with FAT timing?
If they don't want the world to see, why not just do it at a workout and tell no one??
I can't point fingers at who is at fault because it makes no sense to me. I can watch Emily Infeld live stream her driving a boat but I can't watch these athletes run a time trial they have been hyping up??? Huh??
Jerrys Army wrote:
Word on the street is Jerry’s people are running team time trial 5Ks this Tuesday at Portland’s Jesuit high school by the Nike campus.
Should be fast...
ITS NOT AT JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL, ITS AT FRANKLIN HIGH SCHOOL WHERE NICO YOUNG RAN HIS 5K TIME TRIAL
It's pretty windy out.
Sorry, but that's inexcusable wrote:
cheesewiz wrote:
Pandemic shut down is not the time to try to “build viewership”.
Yes it is, actually. It's the perfect opportunity to build viewership, or at least serve people who are already fans.
Explain why
Sorry, but that's inexcusable wrote:
vigilante wrote:
Because you feel like they owe it to you, or what?
Yes. They owe it to their fans to watch them compete. That is the entire purpose of professional sports.
They and everyone other person in the world owe you jack squat. You’re in for a long and frustrating life if you believe otherwise.
Sorry, but that's inexcusable wrote:
cheesewiz wrote:
Pandemic shut down is not the time to try to “build viewership”.
Yes it is, actually. It's the perfect opportunity to build viewership, or at least serve people who are already fans.
You need to remove “serve” from your vocabulary. Are people really this entitled now, or is this turd an outlier?
pavement88 wrote:
This is confusing to me.
If they (BTC) want to have a time trial and are encouraging the athletes to post about it. say how excited they are to don their uniforms, and so forth...why wouldn't they want to stream it?
It's at a high school track, so if the high school is saying for xx reason we don't want ANYONE in the facility to stream this time trial, why would they keep the time trial at this high school?
Is the track extra fast? Is it set up already with FAT timing?
If they don't want the world to see, why not just do it at a workout and tell no one??
I can't point fingers at who is at fault because it makes no sense to me. I can watch Emily Infeld live stream her driving a boat but I can't watch these athletes run a time trial they have been hyping up??? Huh??
It’s straightforward.
The number of tracks in the Portland/surrounding area with rails are very few. The tracks with rails allowing use right now are even fewer. Their venue tonight that was procured for use has asked that there not be a live simulcast. It’s as simple as that.
To add to your point... if 500 people show up to watch the event and a livestream shows hundreds of people in attendance, then the school gets fined for violating the state and county re-opening limits on crowd size. Great video evidence for the government to prove its case! What institution or business wants to be fined heavily because the average person no longer exhibits any self-control and believes that athletes are obligated to entertain them?
Track meets and baseball tournaments are taking place in my area without restrictions. Maybe the group should compete in a real meet instead of messing around.
What's the point in even announcing it and getting fans that look up to you excited if they can't even see it? I couldn't imagine being a kid and being confused as to why I can't watch my favorite athletes in a world where sports are borderline existent.
No one cares if Jager fades off at 2k and runs a 13:45, the olympics trials are a year away. Not a single one of these athletes hasn't proved themselves in the past. They should have just held a time trial quietly at practice.
Hopefully this is at least recorded and they will post that.
They can't release it later if they can't stream it.
Doesn't anyone live close by? I would be happy with a video through the fence.
cheesewiz wrote:
Sorry, but that's inexcusable wrote:
Yes it is, actually. It's the perfect opportunity to build viewership, or at least serve people who are already fans.
Explain why
Because there's nothing else to watch. It's a golden opportunity being wasted.
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
To add to your point... if 500 people show up to watch the event and a livestream shows hundreds of people in attendance, then the school gets fined for violating the state and county re-opening limits on crowd size. Great video evidence for the government to prove its case! What institution or business wants to be fined heavily because the average person no longer exhibits any self-control and believes that athletes are obligated to entertain them?
I thought no one was allowed in-person. If 500 people showed up there would be evidence regardless. That's a nonsensical argument.
Little clubs, world athletics, usatf etc have laid off comma and media and have no money. All these v meets don't have streaming, quotes, data because there's no one to do it. Coaches are using their own high school aged kids for meet staff. Local college kids are doing vids and snaps and posting on Facebook. Please give us a break.
You push a button your phone. You stream on Instagram. One guy streams the women then hands the phone to a woman to stream the men.
Maybe... just maybe there is stipulation from the facility - no live streaming.
People relax, if it could be streamed it would be.
Location most likely has to do with ratifying times and USATF stipulations.
Happy these guys and gals are able to get out and TT/race. Maybe future TT/races will be streamed based on facility and USATF saying so.
SoCan1 wrote:
What's the point in even announcing it and getting fans that look up to you excited if they can't even see it? I couldn't imagine being a kid and being confused as to why I can't watch my favorite athletes in a world where sports are borderline existent.
No one cares if Jager fades off at 2k and runs a 13:45, the olympics trials are a year away. Not a single one of these athletes hasn't proved themselves in the past. They should have just held a time trial quietly at practice.
Hopefully this is at least recorded and they will post that.
Quit whining. They’ll be posting content to follow.
Like I said earlier, who is going to watch over 3 minute races if they have no connection to track and field before. Why would anyone watch random athletes that they don’t know instead of watching the Netflix show they usually watch, or going on YouTube and watching something they’re actually interested in.
There’s a reason the sprints are so popular. You can watch someone run for less than 20 seconds and be amazed by how fast they’re moving. The average person doesn’t want to watch a bunch of guys run 25 laps around the track. If you want to make track popular you need a personality like Bolt or Farah.
The mentality of distance running is very much put your head down and grind. There’s this mentally that’s given off from elites of don’t mess around, don’t party, don’t overly express yourself, put your head down and grind. In football, basketball, baseball, etc. you see the raw emotion of players when they score or when big plays go down. You just can’t get that in a race where you need to conserve energy as much as possible.
I was listening to some podcast Mike Smith was on. He talked about how when FloTrack or other companies make videos/docs about week in a life of distance runners you get the same content every single time. Wake up, run, nap, eat, run again, eat, go to bed.
Distance running just doesn’t appeal to the population because of attention span and lack of familiarity. Runners that show more emotion and insight into the not head down and grind of life are a good opportunity for outsiders to get into this sport, not one off events that no one knows who’s competing in besides people who are already involved in the sport