zzzz wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I think we're are saying the same thing. The guy that doesn't run during the off-season, but attends all the practices for at least 2-3 years and still only runs 20:00, is never going to run 2:20.
We aren't saying the same thing unless you screwed up your last sentence. From his interview, Tyler Andrews probably did run 3-4 years in high school, didn't run in the off season (so only cross country since they didn't have track), only 20:30 before his senior year, and 18:30 his senior year, yet did run 2:15:52.
Here's his actual high school team, with data it seems only after 2013. Only 8 guys under 5:00 mile equivalent in the past 8 seasons. In 2019, their top 1500 guys ran 4:27, 4:33, 4:45 (=4:48, 4:55, 5:08 miles). And look at the four girls 1500 in 2019: 5:58, 6:29, 7:12, 9:32 (=6:27, 7:12, 7:47, 10:18 miles). It's easy to see the culture of running at the school being one of no one actually trying to run fast. If you aren't really trying and have the talent of Tyler Andrews, you could run 20:30 before your senior year and still run 2:15:52 later.
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/SchoolRecords.aspx?SchoolID=19206
Again, we would need to have more details about what he did in HS. I looked up aplastic anemia and that can take years to recover from and might have hindered his running in HS.
That he could run 15:10 a few years later makes me sceptical about him only being able to run 18:30 in HS. That's almost a 1:10 per mile improvement.