Women runs 520 miles on treadmill in 7 days but doesn't get WR as Guinness says her witness doesn't count

Black Belt Running wrote:

Scam_Watcheroo wrote:

Hmmmm, interesting. Given the range of dimensions the belt can be, I will use the greatest length posted, 129.5 inches stretched, so that we err on the side of caution to give Amy Hughes the benefit of the doubt.

Given that she broke the record by less than < 1%, and you haven't measured the most basic unit (length) to that accuracy, how can you possibly be right?

Amy Hughes (GBR) 1-8 Sep 2016 521 miles

Sharon Gayter (GBR) 14-21 Dec 2011 517.63 miles -0.65% less

I have now checked the eBay listings for replacement TT8 waking belts and they are 128 inch nominal length. So by using the 129.5 inch stretched length, I'm giving Amy Hughes the benefit of the doubt. What we are looking for doing this analysis is to see if the distance traveled by the belt of the treadmill is even close to what is expected.

Also, Amy Hughes did not break the record. That is not debatable, Amy Hughes cheated as shown so many times in the video.

Oh, Gary, what will we ever do with you? Do we HAVE to do this every single time where you don't listen?

Tim Cooke

Since you've read the comments, Gary, do you have any comment to make about the video evidence that was mentioned?

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Gary Kiernan

No.

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If Guinness never validated the video evidence because they made it nugatory by preemptively declaring Dave not to be independent, then it doesn't exist in a legalistic sense, and so can't be used against Amy.

Not fraud wrote:

If Guinness never validated the video evidence because they made it nugatory by preemptively declaring Dave not to be independent, then it doesn't exist in a legalistic sense, and so can't be used against Amy.

I think you have watched too many legal B Movies, OK then we will all pretend we never saw it.

With my well trained eye, I have seen no footage of Amy running faster than about 10 minute miling. This fits in with her PBs on her power of 10 profile.

If her average moving speed is 12 minute miling (realistic, or even optimistic judging by scam's work), the numbers start to look very very unlikely.

MoreParodyNeeded wrote:

I really like the crawling in the mud and the press-ups in the stream. It's like some sort of Sacha Baron Cohen parody video.

Those bits are good, but the mud smeared on faces at the end gets me every time. It is so farcical. I just can't stop watching it.

Scamwatcheroo

Check my post at the bottom of page 32.

I went through the first 5 hours of the 12-hour video. Think there's some other DQing points where Dave didn't verify the times/distances.

I also logged that Amy ran 3hr20, walked 30mins, had breaks totalling 1hr10.

Using your calcutations of 2.9mph and 4.5mph which are mathematically about right for a belt length of 128 inches - it suggests she did around 16.5miles in that segment.

Perhaps others can do the run/walk/break splits for the last 7 hours.

Looks like Millet Sports will be providing the links to all the live stream videos for Amy Hughes treadmill run. That will allow me to do a complete analysis of what the videos show the treadmill belt actually traveling.

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We are working on obtaining all the Youtube links as soon as possible and will send them to everyone who has requested them.

10:48 AM · Aug 7, 2017

She runs a lot wrote:

Scamwatcheroo

Check my post at the bottom of page 32.

I went through the first 5 hours of the 12-hour video. Think there's some other DQing points where Dave didn't verify the times/distances.

I also logged that Amy ran 3hr20, walked 30mins, had breaks totalling 1hr10.

Using your calcutations of 2.9mph and 4.5mph which are mathematically about right for a belt length of 128 inches - it suggests she did around 16.5miles in that segment.

Perhaps others can do the run/walk/break splits for the last 7 hours.

Thanks, 16.5 miles covered in 5 hours would be about 3.3 mph average which would be under the 3.7 mph average required for the record running for 20 hours a day.

To get a more accurate result and to save time, I will be trying to use software called Camlytics with its counting ability to try to count the revolutions of the treadmill belt by watching for the Sole logo crossing a line. Maybe this off the shelf software will work for this scenario with the correct set up. Give it a try on a segment of video, it will come in handy when we get all the video from Millet:

Scam_Watcheroo I don't know what to say. You're amazing!

Threads like these probably prevent a lot of cheating. I don't cheat (or use social media) but if I did I would be scared to death of S_W.

Giver of +1 wrote:

Scam_Watcheroo I don't know what to say. You're amazing!

Threads like these probably prevent a lot of cheating. I don't cheat (or use social media) but if I did I would be scared to death of S_W.

LOL, thanks.

There were some sections of the video where you could hardly see Amy let alone the belt because of people standing in front of the camera but good luck with that.

I suspect just totalling up how many hours she runs/walks will see her fall short of the supposed 20hrs per day. I look forward to seeing what you report from the overnight videos.

I couldn't really figure out what her 'system' for breaking the record was. There were periods where she did 1-min run/1-min walk but generally it just seemed like she got on the treadmill ran until she started to get tired, walked for a minute and then went back to faster. Then went for a 20 minute break. Breaking a record like this is much easier with a system.

I'd say she should have been doing a lot more fast walking with some bursts of actual running. Rather than 3hr30 of slow running with 30mins of walking, she could easily have done 16 miles in 4hrs of just walking without any of the impact/stress of running. Don't believe what I saw in those 5 hours was sustainable for 7 days.

That's what we say for the whole time: She doesn't look like an ultrarunner running a 7 day run. It just doesn't look like that.

She runs a lot wrote:

There were some sections of the video where you could hardly see Amy let alone the belt because of people standing in front of the camera but good luck with that.

Yep, I see those occlusions, too, but there are not too many of them and they only last a short time. For those scenarios, I will still need to make a manual list of durations where the treadmill is occluded but Amy is still on the treadmill to credit her with distance at the estimated run/walk speeds. But it is much easier and faster to scrub through video looking for occlusions since they are easy to detect with the eye.

I suppose there must be pressure with an audience present to make it look like this is a running endeavour rather than a prolonged yomp.

Forrest gump again wrote:

That's what we say for the whole time: She doesn't look like an ultrarunner running a 7 day run. It just doesn't look like that.

What will happens is that LR sleuths will find proof she didn't do the run, and she'll deny and her boyfriend will attack the charity and it "shouldn't matter" because they're doing great things with their money (allegedly.) Her feelings > our facts.

Scam_Watcheroo wrote:

Looks like Millet Sports will be providing the links to all the live stream videos for Amy Hughes treadmill run. That will allow me to do a complete analysis of what the videos show the treadmill belt actually traveling.

It's a shame Millet Sports isn't Amy's major sponsor like Skins were with Rob Young. Then we could look forward to a Jamie Fuller water cooler moment and the eventual involvement of Ross Tucker followed by a long drawn out scientific investigation.

Don't listen to the haters Amy, you're always welcome in Norway:

HanhThi Nguyen

Oslo, Norway

https://www.change.org/u/321943627

https://www.change.org/p/guiness-world-recoward-amy-hughes-53marathons-her-rightful-place-in-the-guiness-world-recordsrds-a/c?source_location=petition_show

We won't have that with Amy Hughes.

She will just fade away on her own.

There is no way that she can do another stunt like this. She would get busted on day 2.