Behind the pretence of posters examining the facts with an open mind - or not so open - one thing is starkly clear: how you respond to seeing the 9'29" of Floyd's death under Chauvin's knee says everything about the kind of person you are.
Behind the pretence of posters examining the facts with an open mind - or not so open - one thing is starkly clear: how you respond to seeing the 9'29" of Floyd's death under Chauvin's knee says everything about the kind of person you are.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Behind the pretence of posters examining the facts with an open mind - or not so open - one thing is starkly clear: how you respond to seeing the 9'29" of Floyd's death under Chauvin's knee says everything about the kind of person you are.
I agree! I don’t think they are examining the facts with honorable intents. They are not looking to see if reasonable doubt exists...they are looking for an excuse to hang onto their political biases. This isn’t about Chauvin or Floyd...this is about Republican v. Democrat!
Seeing some of the testimony from the cashier:
He feels kind of sick that his reporting of a fake twenty lead to his death.
But I am wondering how police arrived on the scene so fast to catch someone who passed a fake twenty.
More serious and violent crimes often get slower responses.
And the officer that showed up happened to be someone who had prior personal grievances with Floyd.
pupil3142 wrote:
krispy kremlin._._._._. wrote:
Everyone here has seen the full police body cam footage right?
I've watched it through (both officers) and I'm wondering just how much pressure Chauvin was applying to his left knee on Floyd's neck - at times it looks like he's leaning more on his right knee to get ahold of Floyd's hand/wrist...
People: this was a drug overdose while resisting arrest in the middle of a busy road. Floyd lied and disobeyed officers throughout the ordeal while resisting.
When the jury sees this footage, it's going to be game over for the prosecution.
Stop listening to any media source that at any time suggested this was a murder - you'll become a better citizen and a better person.
https://youtu.be/NjKjaCvXdf4On monday i watched the whole security camera video from across the street. It is clear that DC is sitting backwards - his arse / bottom / derriere is way back over his ankles - he is not pressing onto GF, he is almost leaning back. All three cops are ignoring what is going on around them and are focussed on GF. The two cops to the right of DC keep shifting - DC not so much, but a little. It would be impossible to convict from that video.
Exactly, if he was he could have pressed his neck to about half it's normal size and actually caused trauma that would have easily shown up in the autopsy, but he didn't and it didn't show up as even a bruise.
He forced his way into a woman's house and robbed her at gun point, then got out of prison and tried to pass off counterfeit bills while high on drugs.
Now he is dead.
Not shocking at all. This is how it always ends when you are high on drugs combining crimes.
Reflection_ wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Behind the pretence of posters examining the facts with an open mind - or not so open - one thing is starkly clear: how you respond to seeing the 9'29" of Floyd's death under Chauvin's knee says everything about the kind of person you are.
I agree! I don’t think they are examining the facts with honorable intents. They are not looking to see if reasonable doubt exists...they are looking for an excuse to hang onto their political biases. This isn’t about Chauvin or Floyd...this is about Republican v. Democrat!
You're projecting. You basically admitting you HOPE that this was a murder, and not drug induced tragedy, which says everything about your politics and your distorted thinking.
I don't think Chauvin was guilty of murder, an opinion of which I didn't initially have last year. When the initial photos were released, I thought for sure Chauvin would be convicted, and then the rest of the video evidence came out and the autopsy report come out and changed my mind. That is what good, moral people do, they base their opinions based on the TRUTH, not their emotions. Wrongfully convicting a man because you feel sad does not make you a good person.
You can also feel sad about Floyd's death - I think it was an awful, senseless tragedy that could have been avoided had Floyd made smarter decisions in his life - and ALSO believe that Chauvin is not guilty. It is arrogant to believe that only you have the moral highground on these issues.
So the murals, George Floyd Square/autonomous zone, settlement, and positive media attention are not example of worship? Did you even watch the jury selection, the dismissed one candidate because he tweeted that the road Floyd died in was “hallowed ground”
Reflection_ wrote:
yawn wrote:
Was Floyd claustrophobic when he was in the suv prior to police arrival?
Funny how he only became so once he was busted.
Yes he was. You people can’t claim he was a giant but make him out to be an ant when it comes to getting into the limited space of the police suv. Anyone with unbiased eyes could see that the space in the back was very tight.
This is also why most smart police departments have “paddy wagons”. Bc one of there uses is to carry larger numbers and larger individuals.
You refuse to see patterns. I have seen it time and again where people suddenly develop phobias or medical ailments the minute they are in trouble. Floyd had a personal history of pulling this type of stunt.
Let it Rupp wrote:
Reflection_ wrote:
I agree! I don’t think they are examining the facts with honorable intents. They are not looking to see if reasonable doubt exists...they are looking for an excuse to hang onto their political biases. This isn’t about Chauvin or Floyd...this is about Republican v. Democrat!
You're projecting. You basically admitting you HOPE that this was a murder, and not drug induced tragedy, which says everything about your politics and your distorted thinking.
I don't think Chauvin was guilty of murder, an opinion of which I didn't initially have last year. When the initial photos were released, I thought for sure Chauvin would be convicted, and then the rest of the video evidence came out and the autopsy report come out and changed my mind. That is what good, moral people do, they base their opinions based on the TRUTH, not their emotions. Wrongfully convicting a man because you feel sad does not make you a good person.
You can also feel sad about Floyd's death - I think it was an awful, senseless tragedy that could have been avoided had Floyd made smarter decisions in his life - and ALSO believe that Chauvin is not guilty. It is arrogant to believe that only you have the moral highground on these issues.
Very well said.
yawn wrote:
Reflection_ wrote:
Yes he was. You people can’t claim he was a giant but make him out to be an ant when it comes to getting into the limited space of the police suv. Anyone with unbiased eyes could see that the space in the back was very tight.
This is also why most smart police departments have “paddy wagons”. Bc one of there uses is to carry larger numbers and larger individuals.
You refuse to see patterns. I have seen it time and again where people suddenly develop phobias or medical ailments the minute they are in trouble. Floyd had a personal history of pulling this type of stunt.
and cops have to deal with these dishonest people everyday!
Let it Rupp wrote:
Reflection_ wrote:
I agree! I don’t think they are examining the facts with honorable intents. They are not looking to see if reasonable doubt exists...they are looking for an excuse to hang onto their political biases. This isn’t about Chauvin or Floyd...this is about Republican v. Democrat!
You're projecting. You basically admitting you HOPE that this was a murder, and not drug induced tragedy, which says everything about your politics and your distorted thinking.
I don't think Chauvin was guilty of murder, an opinion of which I didn't initially have last year. When the initial photos were released, I thought for sure Chauvin would be convicted, and then the rest of the video evidence came out and the autopsy report come out and changed my mind. That is what good, moral people do, they base their opinions based on the TRUTH, not their emotions. Wrongfully convicting a man because you feel sad does not make you a good person.
You can also feel sad about Floyd's death - I think it was an awful, senseless tragedy that could have been avoided had Floyd made smarter decisions in his life - and ALSO believe that Chauvin is not guilty. It is arrogant to believe that only you have the moral highground on these issues.
Amen, Brother!
Why is his girlfriend testifying? What could she possibly add other then emotional drama. Prosecutors have a very weak case indeed if this is their angle.
If you're job is too hard for you then you are allowed to quit. You aren't allowed to go around kneeling on unconscious people because your ego is bruised from mean bad peoples.
surveysays wrote:
If you're job is too hard for you then you are allowed to quit. You aren't allowed to go around kneeling on unconscious people because your ego is bruised from mean bad peoples.
Where is this coming from?
Not all areas are the same wrote:
surveysays wrote:
If you're job is too hard for you then you are allowed to quit. You aren't allowed to go around kneeling on unconscious people because your ego is bruised from mean bad peoples.
Where is this coming from?
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surveysays wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Where is this coming from?
?
Who is going around kneeling on unconscious people?
Not all areas are the same wrote:
surveysays wrote:
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Who is going around kneeling on unconscious people?
Saying that police have it hard because they have to deal with meanies doesn't justify Chauvin kneeling on an unconscious person.
surveysays wrote:
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Who is going around kneeling on unconscious people?
Saying that police have it hard because they have to deal with meanies doesn't justify Chauvin kneeling on an unconscious person.
Was GF unconscious when DC needed to use the knee on the head and neck to restrain him?
Why is getting facts straight so hard?
Reasonable doubt is supposed to be the standard. How is there not, at the very least, reasonable doubt about whether Floyd died from being restrained as opposed to overdosing?
Not all areas are the same wrote:
surveysays wrote:
Saying that police have it hard because they have to deal with meanies doesn't justify Chauvin kneeling on an unconscious person.
Was GF unconscious when DC needed to use the knee on the head and neck to restrain him?
Why is getting facts straight so hard?
Did he kneel on an unconscious man? Why is getting facts straight so hard for you?