50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

I raced an 8k on Sunday, time was 30:52. Last year, same course and same conditions I ran 30:33. Age grading shows the times to be identical.

This year, due to a variety of injuries and a double hernia op my mileage in the five months prior to the race has been half of what it was last year. Since I haven't been able to run I have been cross training, mostly on an Arc Trainer and lately on a Zero Runner as well. It takes more time but for me it appears that cross training can substitute for running miles.

I like the fact that my legs aren't sore all the time and instead of getting injured, I have actually recovered from injury. I'm going to keep doing a large part of my training on the no impact machines for the rest of the year and see if I can optimize the combination of running and cross training and get faster than I was last year.

Kevin

icars wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

You are a sorry faker. Strange that anyone would the time to do what you do. Unfortunately there are far to many people like you in this world.

This is a very unfortunate reply.

The unfortunate element is losers like you and your clone that have nothing better to do than troll. It must be lowly existence. You need to run more, or run less, perhaps see a doctor. Good luck and get lost.

I've been part of this thread for a lot longer than you have and I can tell you this used to be a place where we respected each other.

I just turned 55, and I'm thinking about trying a steeplechase for the first time. Has anyone else done something like this? Any steeplechase advice?

I set up some hurdles at the local track and tried a couple of laps at "race pace." It didn't feel tragic, but I don't expect that it would until the last 1k.

Any tips on what race pace would be? Does about 40 seconds slower per mile than race pace sound about right?

Arete wrote:

I just turned 55, and I'm thinking about trying a steeplechase for the first time. Has anyone else done something like this? Any steeplechase advice?

I set up some hurdles at the local track and tried a couple of laps at "race pace." It didn't feel tragic, but I don't expect that it would until the last 1k.

Any tips on what race pace would be? Does about 40 seconds slower per mile than race pace sound about right?

Good luck! The barriers are lower and winning times at nationals do not look fast but I think there is a reason for that! It would have to be pretty tough on your legs especially PF and Achilles.

GREAT GREAT STORY.

I watched the race on my iPhone 7 so I'm insanely jealous.

Still trying to pronounce "unremarkabarelyable".

Thanks for the encouragement.

I think that the barriers are still at 36", as long as the steeple distance is 3000 meters; it only goes down to 30" with the 2000 meter distance. But I may be wrong.

icars wrote:

I've been part of this thread for a lot longer than you have and I can tell you this used to be a place where we respected each other.

Respect for each other? On a running discussion forum? Too funny 😁. The common denominator seems to be a plethora of pretentious attitudes from a wide spectrum of issues ranging from training/injury rehab to nutrition/supplementation...no surprises there.

Arete wrote:

Thanks for the encouragement.

I think that the barriers are still at 36", as long as the steeple distance is 3000 meters; it only goes down to 30" with the 2000 meter distance. But I may be wrong.

Correct. For age 60+ masters the distance goes down to 2k and barrier height goes down to 30".

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

icars wrote:

I've been part of this thread for a lot longer than you have and I can tell you this used to be a place where we respected each other.

Traffic on Respect Street flows both directions.

I could care less how long you have been on this thread, wrong is wrong.

It don't want to get into a tit for tat with you, so just show us where Mike Long disrespected you and I'll apologize and withdraw my comments.

In college I tried the steeple. My coach told me to shoot for mile 2 mile time for my first race so I ran a 3k steeple in about 10:00 (about 5:20 pace). He didn't want me to go out too fast. Good luck. Sounds like fun.

I don't need or want your apology. "Mike Long" is fake poster, perhaps you. Always digging and twisting. Read for yourself.

I expected as much...nothing. Goodbye.

My apologies to the other posters for this distraction.

Yes, and I recognized you are nothing other than a lowly troll. Don't apologize, just go away.

I was here before you and I'll be here when you've gone. I know...you "could care less" (sic).

icars wrote:

Your name is registered. It could only have been you. Own up.

You have been trolling me for awhile now. Why don't you grow up? This is a masters thread junior.

I have called you out for your disrespectful behavior. That is not trolling. It is moderating.

Twerp.

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Week 311

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Howdy, 50+er's! Tomorrow marks the 6th year anniversary of this thread. Glad that we can keep this experience rolling. It's been fun to share the road (virtually) with y'all. Thanks for the props last week and welcome back over50 (new monicker, over60?). When I think of tenacity, I think off guys like racerdb, or coyote montane, or MikeF, or old guy II, or KP, or SCGal, or any number of these other stellar masters athletes (not to mention the whole SoCal group) who have competed at a high level for many years and continue to do amazing things. Thanks all for sharing your journeys.

OK, on to my week. Getting back from the desert to the humidity has been a little rough, but I did manage to eke out 30 miles on 5 days. Log reads as such:

Sun: 8.1 Easy (8:02/mi)

Mon: Off, sightseeing up to Sedona, Jerome, etc.

Tue: 4.2 Easy-to-moderate (7:25/mi avg)

Wed: Off, jet-lagged

Thu: 5.2 variable (7:16/mi avg) about 1.6 was under 7:00/mi

Fri: 5.3 easy (7:58) some stops, was running errands...literally

Sat: 7.2 easy, but hard (7:54/mi) 70 degree dewpoint about did me in.

Not much to add, there was no training going on this week, just logging miles and throwing in some impromptu effort in a few spots.

-Props to your boys, KP. Outstanding!

-Allen1959, very scary story, indeed! Never came close to that myself!

-Mike L, nice report & props on the KCCC HM.

-nice race, Igy. ps-I've resisted saying this, but you're wasting your time arguing with trolls. You can't win, so please stop responding and focus on the good. The rest of us are smart enough to know what's what, so there's no need to point it out.

-Cush, thanks for the report on the Oxy meet! Great stuff! UK hosted the NCAA T&F East Preliminaries here in Lexington this year. I had the pleasure of enjoying 3 days of intense competition, pretty awe-inspiring; the sprinters, in particular, were out of this world. Talked to Chris Derrick's dad briefly, which was pretty neat for me; his other son goes to UNC, but didn't make it out of a very fast 5000m heat. Gina Sereno of Michigan, who went to my High School and had been coached by my old coach, won her 5000m heat so that was kind of cool, too.

OK, that's it for me. Still not quite feeling the racing bug (have to take off some vacation weight,) but I'm getting there. How's by you? Any races to report?

All the Best!