Democrats lose again!!!!
Democrats lose again!!!!
douglas burke wrote:
I have not watched it either, but most of the Tweets on Twitter are saying The Prosecution is having another great Day.
Sounds exactly like the OJ trial - the prosecution was kicking @ss in everyone's opinion for the first couple months.
pupil3142 wrote:
ok, rewound a bit. defence is absolutely taking the pee out of donald williams.
Lots of discussions led by defence of air vs blood hold. DW made a mess of that. one side, two side, trachea protected etc etc.
Did you train police? no.
How long a blood hold for unconscious? 3 seconds.
Can someone fight back again after being unconscious? yes
my energy pulled me towards that corner.
I had no idea an ambulance was called urgently.
i had no idea that poilce had been dealing with him for 15 minutes before you arrived.
you testified that after the ambulance came you saw two new officers. if they were new, how could you hear there conversation?
you grew angrier and more upset? you said; i really wanted to beat the shoe out of the police officers? i wasnt angry, i needed to be controlled.
you started to call them names? yes
you called him a bim 13 times? yes.
you called him a f====g p==sy a--ed b==ch? is that what you heard?
You said you would beat the ,,, out of him? you grew more angry and belligerent? no i grew more professional.
The main one, to me, is that air vs blood constriction could have been an important one, but by his own testimony it can be discounted.
He didnt come across as an independent witness, but a biased one. Was he wearing a blm tee shirt under his shirt?
a loss for the prosecution.
That’s what I was saying earlier. This guy is clearly against DC. Plus, I’m sure the defense can find and mma “expert” who would say the opposite of Williams. Just a waste of a witness. Prosecution is predictably going for emotion over facts.
Ain't 1857 wrote:
A psychologist has suggested that white cops love to shoot
black men as a way to ease their petty insecurities over
the masculinity inferiority complex they get from being
dominated in sports by black men.
What does the psychologist say about gang rape, torture, murder, and desecration of dead bodies of white people?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_NewsomAmazing how everything in USA is narrowed down to Republicans vs Democrats, says it all about the way the US is now and the way it is perceived and not respected around the world.
A guy dies after a cop kneels on his neck for minutes, but it is not about a murder trial or law and order, or the courts doing its thing...it is 'democrat trash crowd'...'republican Trump deplorables' etc.
The way I read the independent coverage of the trial, it is pretty sickening what the cops did that day.
the cops didnt do anything sickening that day. the autopsy report revealed no evidence of neck trauma, and GF swallowed an entire baggie of drugs (and lied about it) and refused to be loaded into the squad car when he could have been sent to the ER more quickly.
peacefularson wrote:
the cops didnt do anything sickening that day.
Millions and millions disagree. And unlike repeated assertions here, it’s not because they are all uninformed and ignoring facts.
millions and millions of people are indeed ignoring the facts, including the fact that the autopsy report revealed no evidence of neck trauma and the neck restraint method used was part of derek chauvins training.
Kneeling is part of training for restraint. Kneeling on an unconscious man’s neck after other officers pleaded that you stop is not part of training.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/firefighter-witness-derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trialchauvin is a hero!! wrote:
All of those bystanders cussing at the police should be arrested.
Democrat trash.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/derek-chauvin-trial-darnella-frazier-18-viral-george-floyd-video-apologizes-doing-morepeacefularson wrote:
the cops didnt do anything sickening that day. the autopsy report revealed no evidence of neck trauma, and GF swallowed an entire baggie of drugs (and lied about it) and refused to be loaded into the squad car when he could have been sent to the ER more quickly.
peacefularson wrote:
millions and millions of people are indeed ignoring the facts, including the fact that the autopsy report revealed no evidence of neck trauma and the neck restraint method used was part of derek chauvins training.
They are also ignoring the fact that Floyd was in the police car and said he couldn’t breathe. That in itself will disqualify any murder charge since they wont be able to prove premeditation. I think in the end he will get 2nd degree manslaughter since they will deem the kneeling video excessive.
yowza!! wrote:
Ain't 1857 wrote:
A psychologist has suggested that white cops love to shoot
black men as a way to ease their petty insecurities over
the masculinity inferiority complex they get from being
dominated in sports by black men.
What does the psychologist say about gang rape, torture, murder, and desecration of dead bodies of white people?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
The psychologist would say the white people were fortunate,they weren't
weighted down and thrown in the river like Emmet Till was,or blown to pisces
inside of their church like four little black girls in Birmingham were.
Serious question (sorry if it was already brought up, I don’t feel like looking through 35 pages), but given the destruction and safety issues that could happen to the city and the jurors (given their names are released), how can you not avoid bias in this case.? I know they spent a long time selecting as impartial of a group that they could, but I would definitely be worried about my safety as a juror if I acquitted Chauvin.
The prosecution seems to have entered a contradictory narrative yesterday.
everyone knows gf died because of dc knee on neck.
But why?
Now two theories entered by prosecution;
1) air choke - causes asphyxiation
2) blood choke - blood loss to brain.
1) is slow, 2) takes seconds. (says the mma 'expert').
So which one is it mr prosecution? by showing you dont know which it was - you introduce doubt. further more, if you say you cant discount either of the two, you also say you cant discount that he knelt gently on a part of his neck not involved in either 1 or 2 - surprisingly enough, the human neck is well protected for 1 or 2 (humans survive as a species).
And then the actual cause of death was neither - it was heart attack. whoops.
So now its a real balls up. If they cant prove the knee was the direct cause of death, but they show death was caused 'generally' by the restraint, then why arent the other two on the same stand for the same charges.
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Why are you unwilling to let us know if you having been watching the trial?
Yes, I have been watching the trial. But unlike you I haven't been having my fingers crossed for a defence breakthrough.
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
So is a knee on the neck for 9'29".
I don't like your sarcasm any better than your legal speak.
I daresay the truth is hard for you to swallow, too.
pupil3142 wrote:
ok, rewound a bit. defence is absolutely taking the pee out of donald williams.
Lots of discussions led by defence of air vs blood hold. DW made a mess of that. one side, two side, trachea protected etc etc.
Did you train police? no.
How long a blood hold for unconscious? 3 seconds.
Can someone fight back again after being unconscious? yes
my energy pulled me towards that corner.
I had no idea an ambulance was called urgently.
i had no idea that poilce had been dealing with him for 15 minutes before you arrived.
you testified that after the ambulance came you saw two new officers. if they were new, how could you hear there conversation?
you grew angrier and more upset? you said; i really wanted to beat the shoe out of the police officers? i wasnt angry, i needed to be controlled.
you started to call them names? yes
you called him a bim 13 times? yes.
you called him a f====g p==sy a--ed b==ch? is that what you heard?
You said you would beat the ,,, out of him? you grew more angry and belligerent? no i grew more professional.
The main one, to me, is that air vs blood constriction could have been an important one, but by his own testimony it can be discounted.
He didnt come across as an independent witness, but a biased one. Was he wearing a blm tee shirt under his shirt?
a loss for the prosecution.
Only if there are white supremacists on the jury. Oh, but you aren't on it, are you?
chauvin is a hero wrote:
Democrats lose again!!!!
I see you've just come out of your coma. You can go back to sleep now.
peacefularson wrote:
the cops didnt do anything sickening that day. the autopsy report revealed no evidence of neck trauma, and GF swallowed an entire baggie of drugs (and lied about it) and refused to be loaded into the squad car when he could have been sent to the ER more quickly.
Two autopsies have found homicide.