It most certainly 100% did and it absolutely made sense to do so too.
And you surely can't believe that there aren't things the US government has done before secretly or without possibility to prove it.
It most certainly 100% did not. There is as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup in Ukraine in 2014. I do believe that many Ukrainians (not your family) were smart enough to see Russia as a terrible anchor and the West as the future and they decided that any corrupt leader that sided with Russia over the West wasn’t fit to lead them any more.
Since Nuland et al are on tape orchestrating the coup for America, how can there be " as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup.." as America did seeing as how the Swiss are not involved
Well surely the US has never denied doing anything first only to declassify some spicy papers 2 generations later?
So you do agree that the US has participated in regime change before?
How about illegally invading Iraq? Did that happen or not?
Amazing how US actions in Iraq have no bearing on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, yet you keep bringing it up.
Really?
Russia invading Ukraine is a war crime but the USA invading Iraq, Libya, Syria not only are not war crimes but should not be brought up in connection with Ukraine.
Amazing how US actions in Iraq have no bearing on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, yet you keep bringing it up.
Really?
Russia invading Ukraine is a war crime but the USA invading Iraq, Libya, Syria not only are not war crimes but should not be brought up in connection with Ukraine.
My God you guys are suckers
No,but Russia shooting innocent civilians for no reason is a war crime.
It most certainly 100% did not. There is as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup in Ukraine in 2014. I do believe that many Ukrainians (not your family) were smart enough to see Russia as a terrible anchor and the West as the future and they decided that any corrupt leader that sided with Russia over the West wasn’t fit to lead them any more.
Since Nuland et al are on tape orchestrating the coup for America, how can there be " as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup.." as America did seeing as how the Swiss are not involved
As you well know,there was nothing on the tape saying that.
You keep repeating it in the hope some suckers believe you.
Russia invading Ukraine is a war crime but the USA invading Iraq, Libya, Syria not only are not war crimes but should not be brought up in connection with Ukraine.
My God you guys are suckers
No,but Russia shooting innocent civilians for no reason is a war crime.
And America droning, bombing, torturing innocents?
It most certainly 100% did not. There is as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup in Ukraine in 2014. I do believe that many Ukrainians (not your family) were smart enough to see Russia as a terrible anchor and the West as the future and they decided that any corrupt leader that sided with Russia over the West wasn’t fit to lead them any more.
Since Nuland et al are on tape orchestrating the coup for America, how can there be " as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup.." as America did seeing as how the Swiss are not involved
It’s becoming increasingly clear that you don’t know what the word “orchestrated” means.
What do you think war is? Here, learn some about your grandfathers:
"In Taken by Force, J. Robert Lilly estimates the number of rapes committed by U.S. servicemen in Germany to be 11,040. As in the case of the American occupation of France after the D-Day invasion, many of the American rapes in Germany in 1945 were gang rapes committed by armed soldiers at gunpoint."
"U.S. soldiers were committing rape against French women during and after the liberation of France in the later stages of World War II. The sociologist J. Robert Lilly of Northern Kentucky University estimates that U.S. servicemen committed around 4,500 rapes in France between June 1944 and the end of the war in May 1945."
Since Nuland et al are on tape orchestrating the coup for America, how can there be " as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup.." as America did seeing as how the Swiss are not involved
As you well know,there was nothing on the tape saying that.
You keep repeating it in the hope some suckers believe you.
Your ability to deny the obvious documented facts is astounding.
Victoria Nuland, who is currently serving as Team Biden's Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, was caught on tape in 2014 planning what was essentially a coup in which a U.S.-chosen candidate would be installed as Ukraine's leader.
"Back in 2014 Nuland was very busy in Ukraine," The Gateway Pundit noted in its report on the leaked call. "She was seen passing out cakes to protesters in Kiev, Ukraine at that time. A few weeks after this the protests in that country got violent and a number of individuals died during these riots.
During the leaked call, Nuland and former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Pyatt discuss events in Ukraine. Nuland mentions Jake Sullivan in the call as well as Joe Biden, who was President Barack Obama's point man on Ukraine.
In their 2014 phone conversation, Nuland and Pyatt discussed who should join a unity government in Ukraine. Nuland notified Pyatt that after the review of the three opposition candidates for the post of prime minister, the U.S. State Department had selected Arseniy Yatsenyuk.
"So in essence what occurred was that the former government of Ukraine was deposed, and the United States, with Biden at the helm, helped stage a coup and then pick the man they decided should lead Ukraine, not the duly elected head of the government," Law Enforcement Today's Jim Patrick noted
. Ironically, the phone call occurred at about the same time Hunter Biden was appointed to the board at Burisma Energy Holdings, one of the largest such companies in Ukraine, despite having no experience in the energy sector.
In the leaked 2014 phone conversation Nuland expressed frustration with the European Union’s response to the situation in Ukraine. “So, that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the UN [United Nations] help glue it. And, you know, F--k the EU,” Nuland said.
Pyatt said: “So let me work on Klitschko [former mayor of Kyiv] and if you can just keep…we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych [deposed Ukrainian president] but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.” Nuland: “So on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [U.S. vice-president’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.” Nuland continued: “Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.” Pyatt: “Yeah. I guess…in terms of him not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I’m just thinking in terms of the process moving ahead and we want to keep the moderate Democrats together. The problem is going to be Tyahnybok and his guys…” Nuland: “I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the…what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I think Klitsch going in…he’s going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it’s just not gonna work.”
Weird coincidence as to who was "designated" PM: Yatsenyuk was designated as the new Prime Minister of the Yatsenyuk Government following the 2014 Ukrainian revolution that removed former President Viktor Yanukovych from power.
What do you think war is? Here, learn some about your grandfathers:
"In Taken by Force, J. Robert Lilly estimates the number of rapes committed by U.S. servicemen in Germany to be 11,040. As in the case of the American occupation of France after the D-Day invasion, many of the American rapes in Germany in 1945 were gang rapes committed by armed soldiers at gunpoint."
"U.S. soldiers were committing rape against French women during and after the liberation of France in the later stages of World War II. The sociologist J. Robert Lilly of Northern Kentucky University estimates that U.S. servicemen committed around 4,500 rapes in France between June 1944 and the end of the war in May 1945."
It's okay when America and nations we are told are out friends do it.
Since Nuland et al are on tape orchestrating the coup for America, how can there be " as much evidence that Switzerland orchestrated the coup.." as America did seeing as how the Swiss are not involved
It’s becoming increasingly clear that you don’t know what the word “orchestrated” means.
arrange or direct the elements of (a situation) to produce a desired effect, especially surreptitiously:"the developers were able to orchestrate a favorable media campaign"
Amazing how US actions in Iraq have no bearing on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, yet you keep bringing it up.
Really?
Russia invading Ukraine is a war crime but the USA invading Iraq, Libya, Syria not only are not war crimes but should not be brought up in connection with Ukraine.
My God you guys are suckers
Where has anybody here made that argument, except in your mind?
No,but Russia shooting innocent civilians for no reason is a war crime.
And America droning, bombing, torturing innocents?
Find and dandy?
All your posts seem designed to either explain or deflect or excuse away any condemnation of the horrible actions of Russia.
You do understand what Russia has done is evil and has resulted in deaths and torture and crimes unimaginable. Trying INSTEAD to discuss evil which others may or may not have done does not take YOU off the hook for refusing to condemn Russia.
You have to look into yourself and ask "why am I sympathetic to these evil deeds"?
As you well know,there was nothing on the tape saying that.
You keep repeating it in the hope some suckers believe you.
Your ability to deny the obvious documented facts is astounding.
Victoria Nuland, who is currently serving as Team Biden's Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, was caught on tape in 2014 planning what was essentially a coup in which a U.S.-chosen candidate would be installed as Ukraine's leader.
"Back in 2014 Nuland was very busy in Ukraine," The Gateway Pundit noted in its report on the leaked call. "She was seen passing out cakes to protesters in Kiev, Ukraine at that time. A few weeks after this the protests in that country got violent and a number of individuals died during these riots.
During the leaked call, Nuland and former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Pyatt discuss events in Ukraine. Nuland mentions Jake Sullivan in the call as well as Joe Biden, who was President Barack Obama's point man on Ukraine.
In their 2014 phone conversation, Nuland and Pyatt discussed who should join a unity government in Ukraine. Nuland notified Pyatt that after the review of the three opposition candidates for the post of prime minister, the U.S. State Department had selected Arseniy Yatsenyuk.
"So in essence what occurred was that the former government of Ukraine was deposed, and the United States, with Biden at the helm, helped stage a coup and then pick the man they decided should lead Ukraine, not the duly elected head of the government," Law Enforcement Today's Jim Patrick noted
. Ironically, the phone call occurred at about the same time Hunter Biden was appointed to the board at Burisma Energy Holdings, one of the largest such companies in Ukraine, despite having no experience in the energy sector.
In the leaked 2014 phone conversation Nuland expressed frustration with the European Union’s response to the situation in Ukraine. “So, that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the UN [United Nations] help glue it. And, you know, F--k the EU,” Nuland said.
Pyatt said: “So let me work on Klitschko [former mayor of Kyiv] and if you can just keep…we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych [deposed Ukrainian president] but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.” Nuland: “So on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [U.S. vice-president’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.” Nuland continued: “Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.” Pyatt: “Yeah. I guess…in terms of him not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I’m just thinking in terms of the process moving ahead and we want to keep the moderate Democrats together. The problem is going to be Tyahnybok and his guys…” Nuland: “I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the…what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I think Klitsch going in…he’s going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it’s just not gonna work.”
Weird coincidence as to who was "designated" PM: Yatsenyuk was designated as the new Prime Minister of the Yatsenyuk Government following the 2014 Ukrainian revolution that removed former President Viktor Yanukovych from power.
Who designated this guy as PM?
So what you're admitting is the US didn't overthrow the government of Ukraine and there's nothing there that says they did.
And America droning, bombing, torturing innocents?
Find and dandy?
All your posts seem designed to either explain or deflect or excuse away any condemnation of the horrible actions of Russia.
You do understand what Russia has done is evil and has resulted in deaths and torture and crimes unimaginable. Trying INSTEAD to discuss evil which others may or may not have done does not take YOU off the hook for refusing to condemn Russia.
You have to look into yourself and ask "why am I sympathetic to these evil deeds"?
Context.
The crimes of the American govt in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, Yemen, Egypt, dwarf what the Russians are doing.
Russia has no choice but stand up against American encroachment.
Your ability to deny the obvious documented facts is astounding.
Victoria Nuland, who is currently serving as Team Biden's Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, was caught on tape in 2014 planning what was essentially a coup in which a U.S.-chosen candidate would be installed as Ukraine's leader.
"Back in 2014 Nuland was very busy in Ukraine," The Gateway Pundit noted in its report on the leaked call. "She was seen passing out cakes to protesters in Kiev, Ukraine at that time. A few weeks after this the protests in that country got violent and a number of individuals died during these riots.
During the leaked call, Nuland and former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Pyatt discuss events in Ukraine. Nuland mentions Jake Sullivan in the call as well as Joe Biden, who was President Barack Obama's point man on Ukraine.
In their 2014 phone conversation, Nuland and Pyatt discussed who should join a unity government in Ukraine. Nuland notified Pyatt that after the review of the three opposition candidates for the post of prime minister, the U.S. State Department had selected Arseniy Yatsenyuk.
"So in essence what occurred was that the former government of Ukraine was deposed, and the United States, with Biden at the helm, helped stage a coup and then pick the man they decided should lead Ukraine, not the duly elected head of the government," Law Enforcement Today's Jim Patrick noted
. Ironically, the phone call occurred at about the same time Hunter Biden was appointed to the board at Burisma Energy Holdings, one of the largest such companies in Ukraine, despite having no experience in the energy sector.
In the leaked 2014 phone conversation Nuland expressed frustration with the European Union’s response to the situation in Ukraine. “So, that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the UN [United Nations] help glue it. And, you know, F--k the EU,” Nuland said.
Pyatt said: “So let me work on Klitschko [former mayor of Kyiv] and if you can just keep…we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych [deposed Ukrainian president] but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.” Nuland: “So on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [U.S. vice-president’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.” Nuland continued: “Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.” Pyatt: “Yeah. I guess…in terms of him not going into the government, just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I’m just thinking in terms of the process moving ahead and we want to keep the moderate Democrats together. The problem is going to be Tyahnybok and his guys…” Nuland: “I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the…what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I think Klitsch going in…he’s going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, it’s just not gonna work.”
Weird coincidence as to who was "designated" PM: Yatsenyuk was designated as the new Prime Minister of the Yatsenyuk Government following the 2014 Ukrainian revolution that removed former President Viktor Yanukovych from power.
Who designated this guy as PM?
So what you're admitting is the US didn't overthrow the government of Ukraine and there's nothing there that says they did.
Nothing?
My God what a buffoon you are.
Nuland names "Yats" as the new PM and lo and behold he gets "designated" as PM.
All your posts seem designed to either explain or deflect or excuse away any condemnation of the horrible actions of Russia.
You do understand what Russia has done is evil and has resulted in deaths and torture and crimes unimaginable. Trying INSTEAD to discuss evil which others may or may not have done does not take YOU off the hook for refusing to condemn Russia.
You have to look into yourself and ask "why am I sympathetic to these evil deeds"?
Context.
The crimes of the American govt in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, Yemen, Egypt, dwarf what the Russians are doing.
Russia has no choice but stand up against American encroachment.
Exactly.
And this is why BRICS+SA - and basically the rest of the world - isn’t supporting the US-NATO agenda in this conflict. It’s the old world powers fighting the wrong enemy (clearly China is the real threat) yet again to enrich the military industrial complex.
The Russia-China statement made three weeks before the invasion mocked the disingenuous “defending democracy” narrative. The rest of the world isn’t buying our BS anymore.