pizza Nova wrote:
How tall is this Ice Wall that forms the edge of our giant pizza tray? It should be pretty easy to get a nice picture of it, even in a Plane can't fly over it.
Unavoidable too. No matter which direction you go, you'd run smack into it.
Thick Crust wrote:
pizza Nova wrote:How tall is this Ice Wall that forms the edge of our giant pizza tray? It should be pretty easy to get a nice picture of it, even in a Plane can't fly over it.
Unavoidable too. No matter which direction you go, you'd run smack into it.
Yeah, but that wall is melting at an ever increasing rate thanks to all the gas guzzling SUV's on the road. You've seen pictures of the glaciers melting? That is really the ice wall. When it finally gives and all the water from our oceans drains off the edge, you'll know the flat earthers were right.
feel the beeern wrote:
If the earth is flat, then why does stuff fall towards the ground?
Shouldn't the moon and the sun eventually crash into the earth since they are just big balls over the ground?
I'd like to know this also
Bart Rutan wrote:
give it up wrote:Good gracious, son. He has beaten you to a pulp. Give it up.
Um, no Are you having the same trouble following along?
I have and so has everyone else. The guy has punched you in the face and taken your lunch money.
Go back and reread the thread and cover up the usernames. Then get back to me on who has been smacked around.
give it up wrote:
Bart Rutan wrote:Um, no Are you having the same trouble following along?
I have and so has everyone else. The guy has punched you in the face and taken your lunch money.
Go back and reread the thread and cover up the usernames. Then get back to me on who has been smacked around.
That's OK if you admit you can't follow along. Advanced subjects are not for the remedially inclined.
This is a scholarly discussion, not a bullying for lunch money. Besides, I pack my own lunch.
A lesson in surveying.
In the 80's I attended a school that specialized in land surveying. I was in a different course but living in a house with surveyors for a year I got to know a little about the science behind it as you spent time chatting about what you are doing.
There are two types of surveying: plane surveying and geodetic surveying.
Plane surveying is used for areas up to about a hundred square miles and for projects that are primarily linear. Geodetic surveying is used once the project area exceeds about a hundred square miles and when exact precision is needed.
Plane surveying doesn't explicitly account for curvature of the Earth's surface while geodetic does. Plane surveying is the most common since most projects are small and level is the primary concern over spatial accuracy. It's also simpler and allows for simpler equipment. The curvature of the Earth is inherently accounted for in plane surveying by the technique used in leveling point to point, visualized and explained here:
http://ecoursesonline.iasri.res.in/mod/page/view.php?id=128291
The technique has limitations but allows the surveyors to consider the area 'flat'.
The key is to mark level by positioning the leveling scope exactly midway between the points and not from one of the points. You'll see how it's done in the link above. If you simply marked level from one point the next, it wouldn't work because you would gradually rise upwards from 'level' because you would be progressing in a tangent from the starting point. By marking level from in between the two points, each segment connects to the previous one at a very slight angle that progressively follows the curve of the Earth and avoids the tangent. This is why plane surveying, the most common form used, doesn't require accommodating the curve of Earth since the technique takes care of it for you.
Geodetic surveying is truly spatial and necessary once large areas of land need to be surveyed since accumulated areas become impossible to reconcile. Geodetic is rooted in math and physics since precision is the key requirement.
Personally, I think LQ is FOS, but he is making everyone who has replied to him on this thread look silly (sorry, that includes you). It also makes the American education system look like crap if not one person on this thread can put forth a reasonable argument against a flat Earth or engage even a reasonable debate with him.
Bart Rutan wrote:
give it up wrote:I have and so has everyone else. The guy has punched you in the face and taken your lunch money.
Go back and reread the thread and cover up the usernames. Then get back to me on who has been smacked around.
That's OK if you admit you can't follow along. Advanced subjects are not for the remedially inclined.
This is a scholarly discussion, not a bullying for lunch money. Besides, I pack my own lunch.
Goodby Norma Jean wrote:
Personally, I think LQ is FOS, but he is making everyone who has replied to him on this thread look silly (sorry, that includes you). It also makes the American education system look like crap if not one person on this thread can put forth a reasonable argument against a flat Earth or engage even a reasonable debate with him.
Bart Rutan wrote:That's OK if you admit you can't follow along. Advanced subjects are not for the remedially inclined.
This is a scholarly discussion, not a bullying for lunch money. Besides, I pack my own lunch.
You can keep posting this under as many handles as you want and it still won't make it true. He's been debunked throughout, though his trolling is entertaining.
Sorry Bart Rutan...that was my first post on this thread.
snoreville wrote:
Goodby Norma Jean wrote:Personally, I think LQ is FOS, but he is making everyone who has replied to him on this thread look silly (sorry, that includes you). It also makes the American education system look like crap if not one person on this thread can put forth a reasonable argument against a flat Earth or engage even a reasonable debate with him.
You can keep posting this under as many handles as you want and it still won't make it true. He's been debunked throughout, though his trolling is entertaining.
Goodby Norma Jean wrote:
Sorry Bart Rutan...that was my first post on this thread.
snoreville wrote:You can keep posting this under as many handles as you want and it still won't make it true. He's been debunked throughout, though his trolling is entertaining.
Well you are still incorrect.
Sincerely,
Not Bart
[quote]Goodby Norma Jean wrote:
Personally, I think LQ is FOS, but he is making everyone who has replied to him on this thread look silly (sorry, that includes you). It also makes the American education system look like crap if not one person on this thread can put forth a reasonable argument against a flat Earth or engage even a reasonable debate with him [quote]
He hasn't answered any of the tough questions. Why do you think only those from the American education system are arguing?
Are you sure flat earth thoughts are not a product of said system?
The word of the week children is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obfuscation
Can we talk about satellites and the International Space Station? What do they do up there? Do the swirl aimlessly, go in a big circle like the moon and sun or does NASA have controllers that make them appear to orbit across the sky?
What keeps them up there?
come on dude. the entertainment value is immense. don't ruin it by chasing people away.
Goodby Norma Jean wrote:
Personally, I think LQ is FOS, but he is making everyone who has replied to him on this thread look silly (sorry, that includes you). It also makes the American education system look like crap if not one person on this thread can put forth a reasonable argument against a flat Earth or engage even a reasonable debate with him.
Bart Rutan wrote:That's OK if you admit you can't follow along. Advanced subjects are not for the remedially inclined.
This is a scholarly discussion, not a bullying for lunch money. Besides, I pack my own lunch.
Legit question wrote:
DontFeedTheTroll wrote:We've known the distance to the sun (to within an order of magnitude) for over 2500 years and successive calculations have only improved on that number. It's millions of miles away.
There are many. If you don't trust the government, then what about Elon Musk? He tweeted a picture taken by a Falcon 9 rocket. The Earth is in the background. I'm not an expert, but it looks round.
Don't you globalists read what I posted earlier? Apparently not. Pay attention, you are beginning to repeat yourselves.
http://aplanetruth.info/2015/1...iles-away/"NASA’s astronomical figures always sound perfectly precise, but heliocentrists have historically been notorious for regularly and drastically changing them to suit their various models. For instance, in his time Nicolas Copernicus calculated the Sun’s distance from Earth to be 3,391,200 miles. The next century Johannes Kepler decided it was actually 12,376,800 miles away. Issac Newton once said, “It matters not whether we reckon it 28 or 54 million miles distant for either would do just as well!†How scientific!? Benjamin Martin calculated between 81 and 82 million miles, Thomas Dilworth claimed 93,726,900 miles, John Hind stated positively 95,298,260 miles, Benjamin Gould said more than 96 million miles, and Christian Mayer thought it was more than 104 million! Nowadays they have settled around 93 million for the time-being."
Yeah, no kidding. Early methods of computing the distance were not very accurate and we had to wait until we had the observational skills (and mathematical knowledge) to determine the distance of *Venus* from the sun (by using a convenient transit of Venus) and then using this to compute the distance of the Earth. This has later been confirmed by more direct means (parallax, etc).
We haven't settled on 93 million "for the time being". Mayer and Martin lived in the 18th century. Dilworth, Hind, and Gould all lived in the 19th century, and I'd call those results very accurate. As time goes on we have refined the results. I don't know why this is supposed to indicate some sort of conspiracy.
Those pics from Elon Musk's rocket were taken with a fisheye lens which distorts the view. Try again.
The statement was "How is there not one photo of our planet if we have mastered space exploration". There are many such photos. The request was *not* for a picture taken with something other than a fisheye lens, but for a *picture*. There's a picture. Enjoy. If you want a picture of Earth taken with a 50mm Nikon lens at ISO100 and no jpeg compression, please specify ahead of time. Thanks.
SpaceshipOne also took a picture of Earth (from about 60 miles up):
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap040625.htmlI guess that one is fake, too?
Is *everyone* in on it?
See who built that? Yours truly.
I haven't read more than a half dozen posts here, but how stupid are any of you that feel the need to defend the "round earth"?
Not one person who is capable of using a computer and posting literate paragraphs on a forum actually believes the Earth is flat. They are trolls. They are all trolls. They don't believe the Earth is flat but some of you seem to actually believe that they do. That is almost worse.
Why is anyone spending time here debating with trolls that are completely mocking and f'ing with you?
Why am I here? Curious to see how a thread about the Flat Earth Theory had so many posts I guess. This is Letsrun, I should have known it was due to idiots endlessly debating faux arguments with obvious trolls. Good grief.
Gray Dog wrote:
I haven't read more than a half dozen posts here, but how stupid are any of you that feel the need to defend the "round earth"?
Not one person who is capable of using a computer and posting literate paragraphs on a forum actually believes the Earth is flat. They are trolls. They are all trolls. They don't believe the Earth is flat but some of you seem to actually believe that they do. That is almost worse.
Why is anyone spending time here debating with trolls that are completely mocking and f'ing with you?
Why am I here? Curious to see how a thread about the Flat Earth Theory had so many posts I guess. This is Letsrun, I should have known it was due to idiots endlessly debating faux arguments with obvious trolls. Good grief.
Hey! I resemble that remark.
I'm back! Will get back into the debate shortly....
I'm aware this entire thread is an excellent troll, but there are very serious flat earth groups out there. They claim there's never been a picture of earth taken from space with anything other than a fisheye lense. Not sure how they know that, but fine. My big question is why would the entire world be in on a cover up? Who the hell cares if the earth is flat or round? Second, why wouldn't a flat earth group find a way to raise money and get up high enough to take real photos of our flat earth? I don't care how much it costs, that proof would pretty much allow you to write your own to let. The entire world would be turned on its ear, an intelligent person could really capitalize on that. Forget all the science, that is my proof that we still live on a sphere.