"Canaday positions his upbringing as rural and working-class, emphasizing that he grew up on gravel and dirt roads, leaving out that his father worked in education and his mother is a high-level scientist in healthcare, also omitting that he graduated from Cornell University."
Well that’s a flat out lie. My Mom was a stay at home Mom most of my childhood and then worked part time at the public school as an aid a few hours a week.
Ha ha she was never in “science and healthcare”.
You can ask Rojo, but Cornell considered our family so “poor” I got so much need based financial aid it was more affordable for me to go there than Oregon State (in state public school).
I also worked jobs in college during the school year to help make ends meet… while being an athlete-student. (At the campus gym, at Finger Lakes Running Co. in Ithaca, and doing odd jobs around campus filming sports games and business presentations etc.)
Lol the athlete-student comment Sage. That's definitely what D1 running feels like for anyone who has been there.
Yeah, that this is somehow turning into Sage vs Cam is absurd. Why people are even defending this guy is beyond me. Saw a ton of people on reddit and elsewhere defending and justifying cheating for non-elites.
You've gotta remember that these people are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know...
For real thought the reason is because so far every person with the ability to actually do something has capitulated to Hanes. Hypocritical and/or cowardly race directors not wanting to make a stink and get on the big influencers bad side.
Yeah, that this is somehow turning into Sage vs Cam is absurd. Why people are even defending this guy is beyond me. Saw a ton of people on reddit and elsewhere defending and justifying cheating for non-elites.
As a long time trail and ultrarunner who has participated in races all over the US, most of the big ultras around, including Aravaipa, it is depressing what this sport is turning into that so many in this space are buddying up to and fine with a known cheater. For gods sakes Jamil even played a role in Xavier being DQ'd from Hard Rock for taking a sip of his girlfriends water, but a doper showing up to his races is fine?
I already have to assume some randoms I am competing against in races at my age are probably on TRT or something, but for folks to normalize this and stand behind it is mind boggling. Personally will not be supporting any organizations that do not come out and make it clear cheating of any kind for any age, elite or not elite, will not be tolerated.
Remember the treatment Ashley Paulson got for have a drug ban history? Now it all look so pretentious and farcical.
The elite trail running & running community should fully support Sage Canaday if they stand for “clean Sport” Cam Hanes has openly acknowledged using banned substances like BPC-157, drawing Liver King vibes.
Many top athletes previously appeared on his Keep Hammering Collective podcast, including Courtney Dauwalter, Rachel Entrekin, Andy Glaze, Conner Mantz, and others. Rory hasni coaching his son with no public comment.
Continuing association with Cam risks damaging personal brands and the sport’s credibility. Clear, principled backing of clean athletes like Sage is essential.
lol re: Cam exemplifying rural living… guy lives in an affluent part of the suburbs of north Eugene and sent all of his kids to a $15k/yr private catholic school (Marist HS). Now he doesn’t even work a real job for a living. Not very blue collar!… it’s kind of interesting that he doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page, because he hasn’t actually accomplished anything noteworthy. He just became friends with Joe Rogan and that made him famous for some reason.
now we’re using identity politics to discredit sage and support cam
Wealthy social media "influencer," who rode to fame on Joe Rogan's coattails, who incessantly posts about himself and pals around with celebrities, who is clearly on juice to help bolster his "brand", who had no particularly noteworthy athletic accomplishments prior to becoming internet famous and using PEDs = BLUE COLLAR and ALPHA AF
Seasoned, successful pro trail/road runner and running coach = ELITIST SNOB and WIMP
F*ck these absolute clowns. Hanes could have just said "I didn't know. I made a mistake. I'm sorry." Instead, he continues to double down and cry and sic his loser followers on Canaday. "i'M bEiNg CaNceLed! :("
You'd think he would be eager to move on from this, given the scrutiny surrounding his PED use has not yet extended to his unemployed influencer (i.e., blue collar) son, who is now attempting to qualify for the Olympic Trials after also seeing a borderline miraculous improvement in his marathon performance in a short period of time. Two members of the same family dropping like 15+ minutes off their marathon PRs in just a year? What a coincidence!
Yeah, that this is somehow turning into Sage vs Cam is absurd. Why people are even defending this guy is beyond me. Saw a ton of people on reddit and elsewhere defending and justifying cheating for non-elites.
As a long time trail and ultrarunner who has participated in races all over the US, most of the big ultras around, including Aravaipa, it is depressing what this sport is turning into that so many in this space are buddying up to and fine with a known cheater. For gods sakes Jamil even played a role in Xavier being DQ'd from Hard Rock for taking a sip of his girlfriends water, but a doper showing up to his races is fine?
I already have to assume some randoms I am competing against in races at my age are probably on TRT or something, but for folks to normalize this and stand behind it is mind boggling. Personally will not be supporting any organizations that do not come out and make it clear cheating of any kind for any age, elite or not elite, will not be tolerated.
I knew about the Xavier thing but didn’t know Jamil had anything to do with it. Care to elaborate?
Probably get the most bang for your buck with pressure on western states for allowing avaparia and others to run golden ticket races with dopers (and feed runners into the lottery via qualification races).
Left a brief comment yesterday on the most recent Freetrail video about their lack of acknowledgement of the issue, and Deebo actually responded, saying:
"I'm happy to be totally uninformed on that particular controversy. I'm sure plenty of other outlets covering it. (prayer hands)"
I left a lengthier reply in response, pointing out the inconsistency of not engaging with the Cam issue when they had no problem discussing the Joyline Chepgneno bust last year. As of yet no reponse from him.
I think another lever to press on is that Dylan Bowman is on the WSER Board of Directors. Might be worth sending an email to that body pointing out the poor optics of having one of their members involved in a company (Speedland) that sponsors a guy who is blatantly, and unapologetically in violation of the race's anti-doping policy.
My suspicion on why he doesn't want to talk about it is he has equity in speedland and is contractually restricted from speaking bad about them and their athletes. Which Cam is, and Dbo was promoting a speedland shoe last December that was cocreated by Cam.
Dbo doesn’t care if the sport is clean if it damages his finances. He is no longer an athlete and a coach so he could care less if someone is doping as long as it helps him. Hence why he refuses to talk about it because he can’t condone it.
Yeah, that this is somehow turning into Sage vs Cam is absurd. Why people are even defending this guy is beyond me. Saw a ton of people on reddit and elsewhere defending and justifying cheating for non-elites.
As a long time trail and ultrarunner who has participated in races all over the US, most of the big ultras around, including Aravaipa, it is depressing what this sport is turning into that so many in this space are buddying up to and fine with a known cheater. For gods sakes Jamil even played a role in Xavier being DQ'd from Hard Rock for taking a sip of his girlfriends water, but a doper showing up to his races is fine?
I already have to assume some randoms I am competing against in races at my age are probably on TRT or something, but for folks to normalize this and stand behind it is mind boggling. Personally will not be supporting any organizations that do not come out and make it clear cheating of any kind for any age, elite or not elite, will not be tolerated.
I knew about the Xavier thing but didn’t know Jamil had anything to do with it. Care to elaborate?
The guy who filmed Xavier taking a sip of water outside aid saw Jamil right after and Jamil told him he had to show Dale. He was instrumental in blowing the whole thing out of proportion (IMO it was blown out of proportion). I am sure Jamil, being the media diva he is saw it as a great opportunity to create some drama for his channels. Dale had no choice but to do something as the whole thing was blowing up on social media during the race. Literally a sip of water outside aid, but hey banned substances are totally fine as long as you are a popular social media influencer.
I knew about the Xavier thing but didn’t know Jamil had anything to do with it. Care to elaborate?
The guy who filmed Xavier taking a sip of water outside aid saw Jamil right after and Jamil told him he had to show Dale. He was instrumental in blowing the whole thing out of proportion (IMO it was blown out of proportion). I am sure Jamil, being the media diva he is saw it as a great opportunity to create some drama for his channels. Dale had no choice but to do something as the whole thing was blowing up on social media during the race. Literally a sip of water outside aid, but hey banned substances are totally fine as long as you are a popular social media influencer.
In 2018 Tony Russ filmed Xavier around 47ish miles in told Jamil. Jamil narked to Dale and Tom Stockton. Xavier was questioned at mile 71, then they waited till 92 miles to DQ him.
Xavier had an hour lead. Ironic that Mr. CLEAN living Raw Milk Jeff Browning ended up the winner
SILVERTON – Race leader Xavier Thévenard of France was disqualified from the Hardrock Hundred Endurance Run early Saturday morning. He was less than 10 miles from the finish line in Silverton. ...
The guy who filmed Xavier taking a sip of water outside aid saw Jamil right after and Jamil told him he had to show Dale. He was instrumental in blowing the whole thing out of proportion (IMO it was blown out of proportion). I am sure Jamil, being the media diva he is saw it as a great opportunity to create some drama for his channels. Dale had no choice but to do something as the whole thing was blowing up on social media during the race. Literally a sip of water outside aid, but hey banned substances are totally fine as long as you are a popular social media influencer.
In 2018 Tony Russ filmed Xavier around 47ish miles in told Jamil. Jamil narked to Dale and Tom Stockton. Xavier was questioned at mile 71, then they waited till 92 miles to DQ him.
Xavier had an hour lead. Ironic that Mr. CLEAN living Raw Milk Jeff Browning ended up the winner
What's clear is that Dylan Bowman, Jamil Coury, Western States, et al. are no friends to clean sport and should be treated accordingly. Go into their races with followers and rules do not apply.