Denial.
Pretending there is no difference between Fauci saying a pandemic could occur at some time in 2005 and, in 2017, stating one will occur under this admin
Denial.
Pretending there is no difference between Fauci saying a pandemic could occur at some time in 2005 and, in 2017, stating one will occur under this admin
test test test wrote:
Giles Corey wrote:
Yes.
35 Covid "related" or "linked" or likely.
In a state where nearly 50,000 persons die every year.
Very scary
120k dead nationwide in a few months ain't nothing.
Well, with 120k allegedly dead, surely you can name a dozen of so of them that we will have heard of?
No?
How about one?
Giles Corey wrote:
test test test wrote:
120k dead nationwide in a few months ain't nothing.
Well, with 120k allegedly dead, surely you can name a dozen of so of them that we will have heard of?
No?
How about one?
John Prine. He's my favorite song writer. Anyone who follows music has heard of him. Prine is right up there with Bob Dylan. I've been pretty bummed about losing him.
If you follow college football, you know Pat Dye, the long-time Auburn coach.
So that's two I know off the top of my head.
Just Google it. There are many famous people who have died of COVID.
71% of new cases in last 7 days have been in Georgians between 0 and 49. CFR for this group is 0.4%.
brazen2 wrote:
71% of new cases in last 7 days have been in Georgians between 0 and 49. CFR for this group is 0.4%.
I thought that a lot of this spike might be due to the protests. The fact that we are seeing younger people getting it might support that thesis.
But the largest protests were in Atlanta and some of the largest metro counties like Fulton, DeKalb, and Clayton have not seen big spikes. However, some of the more suburban Atlanta counties like Henry and Gwinett have been hit pretty hard.
Fat hurts wrote:
Well, with 120k allegedly dead, surely you can name a dozen of so of them that we will have heard of?
No?
How about one?
John Prine. He's my favorite song writer. Anyone who follows music has heard of him. Prine is right up there with Bob Dylan. I've been pretty bummed about losing him.
If you follow college football, you know Pat Dye, the long-time Auburn coach.
So that's two I know off the top of my head.
Just Google it. There are many famous people who have died of COVID.[/quote]
I did google it. Read my post.
Multiple cancer sufferer john pyne -- death blamed on covid
Pat Dye --hospitalized with kidney isues - death blamed in covid.
That's the two most "famous" people you can come up with? 120,000 plus Americans and nearly one half million worldwide allegedly dead due to covid.
You are making my case.
Not a single "A list" celebrity. Not sure those two even make "B list".
Any of them sick?
Six deaths attributed to Covid on 6/19.
What a spike
Giles Corey wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Well, with 120k allegedly dead, surely you can name a dozen of so of them that we will have heard of?
No?
How about one?
John Prine. He's my favorite song writer. Anyone who follows music has heard of him. Prine is right up there with Bob Dylan. I've been pretty bummed about losing him.
If you follow college football, you know Pat Dye, the long-time Auburn coach.
So that's two I know off the top of my head.
Just Google it. There are many famous people who have died of COVID.
I did google it. Read my post.
Multiple cancer sufferer john pyne -- death blamed on covid
Pat Dye --hospitalized with kidney isues - death blamed in covid.
That's the two most "famous" people you can come up with? 120,000 plus Americans and nearly one half million worldwide allegedly dead due to covid.
You are making my case.
Not a single "A list" celebrity. Not sure those two even make "B list".[/quote]
Both died of COVID according to doctors. When you get your medical degree get back to us.
So now you are are changing the rules. You said I couldn't think of one person we have heard of and I thought of two. John Prine and Pat Dye are definitely famous.
How many "A-list" celebrities are there in the US? Who qualifies? Do you have the list?
6/20 Data
More of the same: US improvement, global worsening.
US 7 day rolling average of daily deaths fell to a new cyclical low: 636. Was 1,344 a month ago. It falls by around 20 people every day. Nice work, Americans.
The globe gets worse by 30 people every day. It's at 4,736. was 4,117 on May 30. Ouch.
The US is typically 13% of global deaths these days. Brazil is 22%.
If you believe the Brazil stats, the country is on a plateau, not getting worse. Although the pattern is to plateau, then a country will add in thousands of deaths that have happened in prior weeks.
In any case, per the stats, in per capita total deaths, Brazil is up another notch to 16th worst. Was 28th worst in mid-may.
India is up to 104th worst. was 112th worst 10 days ago.
US states rankings are stable, as far as the few I track.
Still not seeing much of an increase in deaths in the Southern and Western US.
GA in particular seems to have a falling daily death count.
Fat hurts wrote:
brazen2 wrote:
71% of new cases in last 7 days have been in Georgians between 0 and 49. CFR for this group is 0.4%.
I thought that a lot of this spike might be due to the protests. The fact that we are seeing younger people getting it might support that thesis.
But the largest protests were in Atlanta and some of the largest metro counties like Fulton, DeKalb, and Clayton have not seen big spikes. However, some of the more suburban Atlanta counties like Henry and Gwinett have been hit pretty hard.
Let me make some corrections to your post.
Over the past few weeks DeKalb and Clayton have been hit "harder" than Henry County. Those counties have seen many more cases and cases per capita than Henry County. Henry County, with only an average of 10 cases per day (and a weekly high of 12 per day), is far from being "hit pretty hard" right now.
Gwinnett, of course, has had a very large number of cases (about 100 per day for the last 3 weeks). It has remained relatively steady and the number of cases per day have not been increasing by much (94, 100, 96).
Fulton County went from an average of 39 cases per day the week of 6/7-6/13 to 48 cases per day the following 7 day period. Dekalb went from 41 to 50. Henry County? 11 to 12.
For the last 21 days periods the average number of daily new cases plus the average cases per day per 100K population:
Gwinnett: 97 -- 10.3/100K -- weekly high (100)
DeKalb: 50 -- 6.6/100K -- weekly high (50)
Clayton: 16 -- 5.5/100K -- weekly high (28)
Cobb: 37 -- 4.9/100K -- weekly high (44)
Henry: 10 -- 4.5/100K -- weekly high (12)
Fulton: 43 --4.1/100K -- weekly high (48)
brazen2 wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I thought that a lot of this spike might be due to the protests. The fact that we are seeing younger people getting it might support that thesis.
But the largest protests were in Atlanta and some of the largest metro counties like Fulton, DeKalb, and Clayton have not seen big spikes. However, some of the more suburban Atlanta counties like Henry and Gwinett have been hit pretty hard.
Let me make some corrections to your post.
Over the past few weeks DeKalb and Clayton have been hit "harder" than Henry County. Those counties have seen many more cases and cases per capita than Henry County. Henry County, with only an average of 10 cases per day (and a weekly high of 12 per day), is far from being "hit pretty hard" right now.
Gwinnett, of course, has had a very large number of cases (about 100 per day for the last 3 weeks). It has remained relatively steady and the number of cases per day have not been increasing by much (94, 100, 96).
Fulton County went from an average of 39 cases per day the week of 6/7-6/13 to 48 cases per day the following 7 day period. Dekalb went from 41 to 50. Henry County? 11 to 12.
For the last 21 days periods the average number of daily new cases plus the average cases per day per 100K population:
Gwinnett: 97 -- 10.3/100K -- weekly high (100)
DeKalb: 50 -- 6.6/100K -- weekly high (50)
Clayton: 16 -- 5.5/100K -- weekly high (28)
Cobb: 37 -- 4.9/100K -- weekly high (44)
Henry: 10 -- 4.5/100K -- weekly high (12)
Fulton: 43 --4.1/100K -- weekly high (48)
I was looking at the DPH graphs, which is a more accurate view than looking at daily new cases. The DPH graphs give you a sense of when patients actually contracted the disease. And that's what I was trying to look at to see the effects of the protests which started at the end of May. Granted, I did take only a cursory look so I could have been off base.
You are right that I shouldn't have included Henry. Even though their cases went up dramatically from May 20 to June 1, that's the wrong time period to see spiking due to protests. And your point about Henry cases being so low to begin with is a good one.
Fat hurts wrote:
Giles Corey wrote:
John Prine. He's my favorite song writer. Anyone who follows music has heard of him. Prine is right up there with Bob Dylan. I've been pretty bummed about losing him.
If you follow college football, you know Pat Dye, the long-time Auburn coach.
So that's two I know off the top of my head.
Just Google it. There are many famous people who have died of COVID.
I did google it. Read my post.
Multiple cancer sufferer john pyne -- death blamed on covid
Pat Dye --hospitalized with kidney isues - death blamed in covid.
That's the two most "famous" people you can come up with? 120,000 plus Americans and nearly one half million worldwide allegedly dead due to covid.
You are making my case.
Not a single "A list" celebrity. Not sure those two even make "B list".
Both died of COVID according to doctors. When you get your medical degree get back to us.
So now you are are changing the rules. You said I couldn't think of one person we have heard of and I thought of two. John Prine and Pat Dye are definitely famous.
How many "A-list" celebrities are there in the US? Who qualifies? Do you have the list?[/quote]
Thousands. People who most Americans have heard of qualifies. Not John Prine
Median age of Covid-19 deaths per country
Half of all deaths were below, half were above the median age.
Country Median age
Source
Austria 80+ years EMS
Canada ~86 years HCSC
England 80+ years NHS
France 84 years SPF
Germany 82 years RKI
Italy 81 years ISS
Spain ~82 years MDS
Sweden 86 years FOHM
Switzerland 84 years BAG
USA ~80 years CDC
Fat hurts wrote:
brazen2 wrote:
Let me make some corrections to your post.
Over the past few weeks DeKalb and Clayton have been hit "harder" than Henry County. Those counties have seen many more cases and cases per capita than Henry County. Henry County, with only an average of 10 cases per day (and a weekly high of 12 per day), is far from being "hit pretty hard" right now.
Gwinnett, of course, has had a very large number of cases (about 100 per day for the last 3 weeks). It has remained relatively steady and the number of cases per day have not been increasing by much (94, 100, 96).
Fulton County went from an average of 39 cases per day the week of 6/7-6/13 to 48 cases per day the following 7 day period. Dekalb went from 41 to 50. Henry County? 11 to 12.
For the last 21 days periods the average number of daily new cases plus the average cases per day per 100K population:
Gwinnett: 97 -- 10.3/100K -- weekly high (100)
DeKalb: 50 -- 6.6/100K -- weekly high (50)
Clayton: 16 -- 5.5/100K -- weekly high (28)
Cobb: 37 -- 4.9/100K -- weekly high (44)
Henry: 10 -- 4.5/100K -- weekly high (12)
Fulton: 43 --4.1/100K -- weekly high (48)
I was looking at the DPH graphs, which is a more accurate view than looking at daily new cases. The DPH graphs give you a sense of when patients actually contracted the disease. And that's what I was trying to look at to see the effects of the protests which started at the end of May. Granted, I did take only a cursory look so I could have been off base.
You are right that I shouldn't have included Henry. Even though their cases went up dramatically from May 20 to June 1, that's the wrong time period to see spiking due to protests. And your point about Henry cases being so low to begin with is a good one.
:sigh
You put way too much stock in the daily case graph. It's easy to see that there is a data dump on each Monday. They don't always get patient data on when symptoms started and back date it.
If you notice there is a case spike each Monday. Do you think this is just a coincidence? Does COVID start showing itself on that day of the week or perhaps it is just a bad case of the Mondays?
Right now the day with the highest number of cases on the GADPH graph is 6/15. Next highest is 6/8. Before that it is 6/1. See a pattern? Highest before that was 5/26. Oh no, you say. That was a Tuesday. Sorry, Monday was Memorial Day. May 18, then May 11.
Same thing happens for the low end. Nobody seems to have symptoms on Sundays. Interesting. LOL
What do you think the next day with the highest number of cases will be?
brazen2 wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I was looking at the DPH graphs, which is a more accurate view than looking at daily new cases. The DPH graphs give you a sense of when patients actually contracted the disease. And that's what I was trying to look at to see the effects of the protests which started at the end of May. Granted, I did take only a cursory look so I could have been off base.
You are right that I shouldn't have included Henry. Even though their cases went up dramatically from May 20 to June 1, that's the wrong time period to see spiking due to protests. And your point about Henry cases being so low to begin with is a good one.
:sigh
You put way too much stock in the daily case graph. It's easy to see that there is a data dump on each Monday. They don't always get patient data on when symptoms started and back date it.
If you notice there is a case spike each Monday. Do you think this is just a coincidence? Does COVID start showing itself on that day of the week or perhaps it is just a bad case of the Mondays?
Right now the day with the highest number of cases on the GADPH graph is 6/15. Next highest is 6/8. Before that it is 6/1. See a pattern? Highest before that was 5/26. Oh no, you say. That was a Tuesday. Sorry, Monday was Memorial Day. May 18, then May 11.
Same thing happens for the low end. Nobody seems to have symptoms on Sundays. Interesting. LOL
What do you think the next day with the highest number of cases will be?
That is a good observation about Mondays, but the DPH graph still gives you a better idea of when the disease was contracted than relying on the raw new case data. It would be nice to see the breakdown of how many were classified based on symptom onset vs other criteria but we don't have that.
They do update individual cases as they get more information. It's not unusual to see numbers from dates in mid-May to still change. So while the data is never as good as you would like it to be, I do believe that the DPH chart is the best we've got for divining the actual spread of the virus.
06/21 Data
Another day of linear improvement in the US. Not so much in the world.
The US hit a new cyclic low of 627 deaths (rolling 7 day average of daily deaths). This has fallen almost every day for weeks. The US was just 8% of world deaths, a new cyclical low. This number was routinely 34% for weeks and weeks.
The World edged up to a new cyclical high in daily deaths: 4747.
Pakistan is a problem - up to 88th worst nation after being 95th a couple weeks ago.
Still no sight of a surge in deaths in the Southern or Western US states that have seen surges of cases.
agip wrote:Still no sight of a surge in deaths in the Southern or Western US states that have seen surges of cases.
Arizona, Texas, Oregon and Arkansas
Giles Corey wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C95ECjxgcJE&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR34nUy-Yo5F5UxdqsU4JxtZFpcoky1lZ6_lzjrjvyFZm61xDZjdFhGUaCkHow did he know there will be a surprise outbreak during the next administration? He could say sometime in the future. But no, something the next admin will have to deal with. I.e., within four years.
It's a conspiracy!
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
DEEP STATE!!!!!
Rt at 1.08.
Reminder to get tested today.
All Georgians can be tested, regardless if symptoms are present, by contacting local health departments or health care provider for a referral to a testing site near their area.