Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

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Could have enough already. wrote:

At that spot you are virtually guaranteed of appearing in at least one photo or more,

But guess what, in between no photos of Frank.

Apart from Frank, what am I missing?

At that point the runners are well strung out at the pace Frank is supposedly running at so no way he would have been missed.

As has been stated, Female 19087 and the Greek guy are in the sequence where the good doctor is seen reentering the course. According to someone familiar with the course, this is well after 15k and shortly before 20k. Can someone identify the closest intersection or the businesses/landmarks shown in the sequence?

Hollywood Blvd and Highland Ave.

Street view of Hollywood Blvd between Highland and Orange looking south in the general area where the runner re-enters the course in the picture previously posted:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1016045,-118.3407778,3a,75y,181.16h,93.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLaqsU_U5GZB7R2hV7FMRJg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

this is definitely between 15K and 20K (in fact, it's approximately mile 11.5-11.7), as the mann chinese theatre is in the background. the below photo is on hollywood blvd. (just after fm joins 19807 and 22397), as they head west on hollywood blvd, before making a left on orange drive, and then a right on sunset towards the 20K mat. the 20k mat is within a mile of the location of the photo. 19807 and 22397 run most of the course together and are not pictured with fm again.

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photo/en/usd/3017/19087/3017_231331#3017_231331

https://www.lamarathon.com/event-info/the-course/course-map

I dont see much potensial for furter improvement. I think he has reached his plateau.

No way can FM have caught Greek anywhere after 15k. This is why I assumed the re-entry sequence of photos had to be prior to the 15k mat. Any photo of FM with Greek after 15k would be clear evidence that FM passed Greek by means other than running. Have you got actual proof of where FM's re-entry occured. If so call the RD. That should be enough. However, that only accounts for such a short distance of "cheat". I can see why missing mats would be very helpful for cheaters.

According to the LAM event info page, port-a-potties are located "just past each aid station" and the nearest aid station to the Chinese theater according to the course map was on Hollywood Blvd east of Highland, about a block from where the runner in the pic re-entered the course across from the Chiese theater.

Roderick Powell wrote:

No way can FM have caught Greek anywhere after 15k. This is why I assumed the re-entry sequence of photos had to be prior to the 15k mat. Any photo of FM with Greek after 15k would be clear evidence that FM passed Greek by means other than running. Have you got actual proof of where FM's re-entry occured. If so call the RD. That should be enough. However, that only accounts for such a short distance of "cheat". I can see why missing mats would be very helpful for cheaters.

The course map shows that Grauman's Chinese Theater (the location of the re-entry sequence) appears to be a little more than 11.5 miles into the race.

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FM and 19807 were only a few feet apart in this photo, which according to the poster below, is within a mile of the 20k mat. Yet 19807 reaches the 20k mat in 1:21:21. FM reaches the mat in 1:23:01. That's 1:40 slower than 19807.

it's only a matter of time wrote:

this is definitely between 15K and 20K (in fact, it's approximately mile 11.5-11.7), as the mann chinese theatre is in the background. the below photo is on hollywood blvd. (just after fm joins 19807 and 22397), as they head west on hollywood blvd, before making a left on orange drive, and then a right on sunset towards the 20K mat. the 20k mat is within a mile of the location of the photo. 19807 and 22397 run most of the course together and are not pictured with fm again.

https://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photo/en/usd/3017/19087/3017_231331#3017_231331https://www.lamarathon.com/event-info/the-course/course-map

So he was running at 8-9 minute pace for that stretch, I guess. But we can conclude that he at least ran that much of LAM.

Looks like Frank's modus operandi is having the desired effect as confusion reigns amongst the LR sleuths and truth seekers. Also, one thing Frank didn't anticipate is the sleuths swapping between kilometres and miles in their threads, very confusing, but keep up the good work fellas, the truth will win out.

Don' live .2 miles from Frank wrote:

According to the LAM event info page, port-a-potties are located "just past each aid station" and the nearest aid station to the Chinese theater according to the course map was on Hollywood Blvd east of Highland, about a block from where the runner in the pic re-entered the course across from the Chiese theater.

so youre saying he cant use the poties as an excuse for jumping in if that is him in the photo?

Oh please,

Frank Meza is the greatest cheater in the history of running.

He.

Cheats.

On a sociopathic level.

Unparalleled.

He is the greatest ever.

confused........ wrote:

Don' live .2 miles from Frank wrote:

According to the LAM event info page, port-a-potties are located "just past each aid station" and the nearest aid station to the Chinese theater according to the course map was on Hollywood Blvd east of Highland, about a block from where the runner in the pic re-entered the course across from the Chiese theater.

so youre saying he cant use the poties as an excuse for jumping in if that is him in the photo?

Yes, if the potties are located just past the aid stations, and the closest aid station was a block away, there were no potties where the runner is jumping onto the course.

thanks

another nail in the coffin

There's no doubt whatsoever that he cheated. Geez...one look at the guy and it's obvious...not to mention all the timing inconsistencies.

What I am curious about is how fast he can actually run a marathon if...in fact...he can even run one. He looks like he might be able to run 4 hours but I'm not sure. His muscle tone is not great. But he doesn't look to bad when he is running.

I wonder how he ever got to a place where he was compelled to do this.

so in the photo of the person (frank?) jumping in he would have been doing it from nth orange drv going by the photo