Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

hani saleem wrote:

RussianTerroristState wrote:

Let’s. Russia has lost more territory in a week than they gained in the last four months, and they’re still retreating (sorry, “strategically redeploying”). How do you see Russia turning this around and getting the momentum back? They’ve shown no solution to counter Ukraine’s HIMAR usage to devastate their logistics.

I will wait for Carmoine to reply with some rando YT reference stating some nonsense about the MSM's flaws and accuse everyone else of being misinformed.

Well, ok then! wrote:

Ernest wrote:

Speaking of no-crust Cucumber sandwiches, the cheer-leading high-brows over at ISW invented a new language.

Last week, instead of the Ukraine retreating from Severodonetsk, they were making a "tactical retrograde" and a "strategic repositioning."

This week, as evacuating Ukrainian troops from Lysychansk take shelling, they are "conducting a fighting withdrawal... to force the Russian offensive to culminate prematurely."

Link:understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russ...

Now that we have an prime example of a disorganized retreat, it might be a good time to revisit the difference between this and a "tactical retrograde". In the latter case the front line is held, perhaps at high cost, to buy time so as to establish a fall back lines of defense and position forces to cover the retreat. In the former, not so much.

RussianTerroristState wrote:

I thought Putin was liberating people from the terrible Zelensky administration. Now you’re telling me that Russia’s only remaining strategy is to take away electricity from the people he’s supposed to be empowering? Sounds like Russia is led by a real a-hole.

truth be told... wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

You obviously have no primary sources at all. Who is telling you this stuff?

Russia is systematically dismantling the Ukrainian military's eastern forces, is what it keeps saying. Most of the remainder are surrounded within cities, unable to engage because the moment they show themselves they are pinpointed by drones and blasted with artillery.

Bad Wiggins this didn't age well. How can one poster be sooo wrong sooo many times?

Russia is the Future wrote:

Years to repair power plants. Millions of Zelensky supporters are now shivering in the dark, and will be drinking from puddles. This is only amusing, because it isn't YOU, yet. The rest of Europe will be next. As far as America, Democrats will bring it down from inside.

tdkyts wrote:

RussianTerroristState wrote:

I thought Putin was liberating people from the terrible Zelensky administration. Now you’re telling me that Russia’s only remaining strategy is to take away electricity from the people he’s supposed to be empowering? Sounds like Russia is led by a real a-hole.

1) Thanks for spelling "led" correctly.

2) TBF that asshoIe Putin is the kind of guy a *lot* of Russians like to have leading the country.

agip wrote:

Fascinating bit of RU history here - RU political talkshows have always parroted the putin/GOP line...until now. Now they are saying RU has lost, that Putin had given wrong intel, that the war was simply a colonial conquest attempt, etc. Wild stuff.

Also reports that generals have told Putin the war is lost.

Putin has lost so badly that he's almost lost support of the Republican Party.

Tweet:twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/156908...

my 2c wrote:

Russia is the Future wrote:

Russia tried to liberate the Ukraine with kid gloves on, that attempt has failed. Now the gloves are coming off.

Right, now the gloves are coming off. And the helmets, the uniforms, the rifles and the rest of the weaponry as Russian soldiers try to flee for their lives to the border.

Russia is the Future wrote:

Baber of Seville wrote:

Lmao. If I enjoy living? You're a commie scumbag.

No, I'm not an American Democrat, tyvm.

tdkyts wrote:

agip wrote:

Fascinating bit of RU history here - RU political talkshows have always parroted the putin/GOP line...until now. Now they are saying RU has lost, that Putin had given wrong intel, that the war was simply a colonial conquest attempt, etc. Wild stuff.

Also reports that generals have told Putin the war is lost.

Putin has lost so badly that he's almost lost support of the Republican Party.

Tweet:twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/156908...

That *was* fascinating. Truly. Really interesting to see the different views, and to see RU "allowing" them.

Despite their widely differing views, the members of the panel all seem to have a pretty good grasp of the real situation on the ground in Ukraine. Most Russian citizens: not so much.

Thanks for posting.

RussianTerroristState wrote:

You’re pathetic and off your meds Carmine.

Russia is the Future wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Oh Comrade, you are TOO funny!

Keep up the good work, though. Baghdad RITF!

Years to repair power plants. Millions of Zelensky supporters are now shivering in the dark, and will be drinking from puddles. This is only amusing, because it isn't YOU, yet. The rest of Europe will be next. As far as America, Democrats will bring it down from inside.

Cold War Warrior5 wrote:

Russia is the Future wrote:

Years to repair power plants. Millions of Zelensky supporters are now shivering in the dark, and will be drinking from puddles. This is only amusing, because it isn't YOU, yet. The rest of Europe will be next. As far as America, Democrats will bring it down from inside.

Why don't the U.S. backers of this endeavor see the harm directly due to U.S. throwing away money on Ukraine. As U.S. based poster after post brag regarding weakening of Russia, U.S. is simultaneously weakening. About eight or nine months ago, symbol SPY traded in 460 to 470 range. Not even close to that price today. Is that winning?

carmine9 wrote:

Deno wrote:

Give real life a shot slick...

Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0zcXGx_bqk

Russia is whipped.

How long you figure they can keep pushing this narrative?

Russia is whipped?

Let's come back to this in a month

Russia is the Future wrote:

Russia is the Future wrote:

Years to repair power plants. Millions of Zelensky supporters are now shivering in the dark, and will be drinking from puddles. This is only amusing, because it isn't YOU, yet. The rest of Europe will be next. As far as America, Democrats will bring it down from inside.

Link:www.naturalnews.com/2022-09-11-suicide...

wafflecopter wrote:

Russia is the Future wrote:

Link:www.naturalnews.com/2022-09-11-suicide...

Imagine reading (and thinking worth posting) an "article" with that absurd of a title.

tdkyts wrote:

agip wrote:

Fascinating bit of RU history here - RU political talkshows have always parroted the putin/GOP line...until now. Now they are saying RU has lost, that Putin had given wrong intel, that the war was simply a colonial conquest attempt, etc. Wild stuff.

Also reports that generals have told Putin the war is lost.

Putin has lost so badly that he's almost lost support of the Republican Party.

Tweet:twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/156908...

That *was* fascinating. Truly. Really interesting to see the different views, and to see RU "allowing" them.

Despite their widely differing views, the members of the panel all seem to have a pretty good grasp of the real situation on the ground in Ukraine. Most Russian citizens: not so much.

Thanks for posting.

wafflecopter wrote:

Russia is the Future wrote:

Link:www.naturalnews.com/2022-09-11-suicide...

Imagine reading (and thinking worth posting) an "article" with that absurd of a title.