Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

Great post

ISW update.

The Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkiv Oblast is routing Russian forces and collapsing Russia’s northern Donbas axis. Russian forces are not conducting a controlled withdrawal and are hurriedly fleeing southeastern Kharkiv Oblast to escape encirclement around Izyum. Russian forces have previously weakened the northern Donbas axis by redeploying units from this area to Southern Ukraine, complicating efforts to slow the Ukrainian advance or at minimum deploy a covering force for the retreat. Ukrainian gains are not confined to the Izyum area; Ukrainian forces reportedly captured Velikiy Burluk on September 10, which would place Ukrainian forces within 15 kilometers of the international border.[1] Ukrainian forces have penetrated Russian lines to a depth of up to 70 kilometers in some places and captured over 3,000 square kilometers of territory in the past five days since September 6 – more territory than Russian forces have captured in all their operations since April.

Bad Wiggins this didn't age well. How can one poster be sooo wrong sooo many times?

Fascinating bit of RU history here - RU political talkshows have always parroted the putin/GOP line...until now. Now they are saying RU has lost, that Putin had given wrong intel, that the war was simply a colonial conquest attempt, etc. Wild stuff.

Also reports that generals have told Putin the war is lost.

Putin has lost so badly that he's almost lost support of the Republican Party.

Russia tried to liberate the Ukraine with kid gloves on, that attempt has failed. Now the gloves are coming off. Bombing of the Ukraine's power plants and other critical infrastructure has begun, just like the USA has done to every country it has invaded, Panama, Iraq, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq again, Libya, Syria, etc. Now, Ukraine will have the choice of overthowing Zelensky, or starving/freezing in the dark in very immediate future.

Rumors are that an actual declaration of war, and full invasion with Russian military, far beyond what was possible/legal with a "special police action" is incoming:

zerohedge.com

Ukraine's 2nd Largest City Plunged Into Total Darkness As Russia Strikes Key Infrastructure

Ukraine officials calling it retaliation for "defeat on the battlefield"...

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Russia is the future? Lmao. Russia is the past, pal. And Putin will be swept into the dustbin of history along with all the other petty despotic dictators.

Europe is going to be freezing/starving this winter also. This is the start of the Russia/China era of world dominance.

Oh, really? We will see about that, won't we?

It is already here. If you enjoy living, time to make sure your government is friendly towards to Russia:

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Swiss Social Media Abuzz Over 'Rat Out Your Neighbor' Energy Use Posters

'If a complaint is filed, the police must act...'

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As Switzerland takes drastic measures to reduce its gas use this winter - including fines and up to three years in prison for citizens who violate new regulations, a viral poster circulating on Swiss social media telling citizens to rat out neighbors heating their homes above 19C (66.2F) has raised eyebrows.

Lmao. If I enjoy living? You're a commie scumbag.

Right, now the gloves are coming off. And the helmets, the uniforms, the rifles and the rest of the weaponry as Russian soldiers try to flee for their lives to the border.

See, the thing about "now we're going to get really serious about this invasion" is you have to have an army left to make that work. Russia doesn't. The soldiers are dead, maimed, or running away. The heavy weapons are being repainted with Ukrainian camouflage. Russia can't build modern tanks or planes anymore.

You know how we can be sure Russia has utterly lost the war? Look what it's still doing in Donetsk - pointless assaults, day after day, all repelled by Ukrainian fortifications that haven't budged in 14 years. That's more dead Russian soldiers and destroyed equipment that Russia can't replace, every day, with no strategic plan, even with Russian defensive lines collapsing on either side. Eventually the whole thing collapses, like we saw this week on the Kharkiv front.

No, I'm not an American Democrat, tyvm.

No, you're a troll. A misinformed one.

Even if what you say was true. Russia will not lose:

zerohedge.com

Could Russia's Sudden Ukraine Retreat Mean A Tactical Nuclear Weapons Strike Is Coming?

...how the situation in Ukraine could get far more dangerous...

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And then there are actual full size nukes if the tactical fail to convince. Russia is not going to be defeated in the Ukraine. No matter how high the stakes/costs go.

You are entertaining. I'll give you that. Must be nice over there in fantasyland. Say hi to Mickey Mouse for me.

I can see you get it, you get how things really are;

Russia will lose over 100.000 soldiers, TONS of military equipment and what did they gain.....nothing. A laughing stock is all they accomplished.

Big mistake thinking that army coud take anyone, they totally sucked, as we all saw.

Funny when Putin days stuff like......will make you pay....or.....you cou;d be next......that's funny, nobody is afraid of these wimps.