original liar soorer wrote:
https://www.cps.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/legal_guidance/THE-CRIMINAL-JUSTICE-AND-PUBLIC-ORDER-ACT-1994.pdfGood luck on going for trespass whilst watching a sporting event.
+1 to that.
original liar soorer wrote:
https://www.cps.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/legal_guidance/THE-CRIMINAL-JUSTICE-AND-PUBLIC-ORDER-ACT-1994.pdfGood luck on going for trespass whilst watching a sporting event.
+1 to that.
#safernow wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
https://www.cps.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/legal_guidance/THE-CRIMINAL-JUSTICE-AND-PUBLIC-ORDER-ACT-1994.pdfGood luck on going for trespass whilst watching a sporting event.
+1 to that.
Interested if Armstronglivs has a thought of even marginal merit about this take on the reality of enforcing the ban as he think it stands.
original liar soorer wrote:
#safernow wrote:
+1 to that.
Interested if Armstronglivs has a thought of even marginal merit about this take on the reality of enforcing the ban as he think it stands.
That it is a sporting event is irrelevant. A trespass order can be obtained against anyone who goes on property or premises where they do not have permission or have been barred. A person can have a trespass order against them that prevents them from entering a bar or a nightclub. A sports event is in principle the same. A sporting body that is responsible for an event can obtain a trespass order against someone who it deems does not meet its conditions for entry. That can include a banned coach. But its easier option is simply to refuse him entry or have its own security remove him. A trespass order would only be be likely or necessary if he kept turning up to events he has been barred from. He won't do it - so your postulations about him doing so are pure fancy.
You really are desperate to see the Salazar ban frustrated. I wonder how much his team are paying you to push his propaganda here - because there would otherwise be no reason in decency - or sanity - to do so. But what do you know about decency or sanity.
Bad Wigins wrote:
UofO wrote:
But this sexual misconduct charge is ridiculous.
you don't have to be a fan of Salazar to realize the implications of equating comments about an athlete's weight to sexual harassment.
Since when was weight sexual?
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
Interested if Armstronglivs has a thought of even marginal merit about this take on the reality of enforcing the ban as he think it stands.
That it is a sporting event is irrelevant. A trespass order can be obtained against anyone who goes on property or premises where they do not have permission or have been barred. A person can have a trespass order against them that prevents them from entering a bar or a nightclub. A sports event is in principle the same. A sporting body that is responsible for an event can obtain a trespass order against someone who it deems does not meet its conditions for entry. That can include a banned coach. But its easier option is simply to refuse him entry or have its own security remove him. A trespass order would only be be likely or necessary if he kept turning up to events he has been barred from. He won't do it - so your postulations about him doing so are pure fancy.
You really are desperate to see the Salazar ban frustrated. I wonder how much his team are paying you to push his propaganda here - because there would otherwise be no reason in decency - or sanity - to do so. But what do you know about decency or sanity.
I repeat that I have no interest in seeing AS again.
To say that I am being paid by AS’s team is as stupid as you getting you bladder within your digestive system that you kept repeating.
Have you not read the govt link on trespass?
Licensing laws are different from sports facilities constraints …. If any.
And as not barred from spectating anyway ……
A spectator is not a participant according to the Code…..oh you don’t bother with Codes .
Just imagine the case load from a million football spectators each weekend?
Nodoubts wrote:
The decision is final.
Story in Wall Street Journal.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/alberto-salazar-running-coach-banned-11640204152LRC Note. Here is our article on the matter
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/12/safesport-hands-alberto-salazar-lifetime-ban-for-sexual-misconduct-what-does-that-mean/
It would be nice to know why the most successful instance coach ever was banned? And since when did weight have anything to do with sexual misconduct? This is just ridiculous. It's a WOKE system that is changing the sport of track for the worse. People need to get over the fact that weight doesn't matter... In fact, it matters a lot whether you are lighter or heavier. Your weight is one of the most impactful things in running. For example, if I was 10 pounds lighter right now I would weigh 115 pounds and I would be extremely slow, and if I was 10 pounds heavier the same thing would happen. Weight matters almost more than anything in running when you actually think about it. And if a Coach isn't going to let you know when you are off weight then who is? I agree the way Salazar conducted weighing some of his athletes was wrong. There is no point in weighing his athletes in front of each other, but does that deserve a ban for life? I don't think so; this is assuming that the charge was based on the Mary Cain thing, but we still don't know. "SafeSport" is literally a woke extension to our sports governing body that serves its agenda, and doesn't provide evidence for its claims to "protect the victim"
Womens Running Magazine interview with Mary Cain. She doesn’t give any evidence of sexual misconduct.
https://www.womensrunning.com/culture/people/in-her-power-mary-cain/
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
That it is a sporting event is irrelevant. A trespass order can be obtained against anyone who goes on property or premises where they do not have permission or have been barred. A person can have a trespass order against them that prevents them from entering a bar or a nightclub. A sports event is in principle the same. A sporting body that is responsible for an event can obtain a trespass order against someone who it deems does not meet its conditions for entry. That can include a banned coach. But its easier option is simply to refuse him entry or have its own security remove him. A trespass order would only be be likely or necessary if he kept turning up to events he has been barred from. He won't do it - so your postulations about him doing so are pure fancy.
You really are desperate to see the Salazar ban frustrated. I wonder how much his team are paying you to push his propaganda here - because there would otherwise be no reason in decency - or sanity - to do so. But what do you know about decency or sanity.
I repeat that I have no interest in seeing AS again.
To say that I am being paid by AS’s team is as stupid as you getting you bladder within your digestive system that you kept repeating.
Have you not read the govt link on trespass?
Licensing laws are different from sports facilities constraints …. If any.
And as not barred from spectating anyway ……
A spectator is not a participant according to the Code…..oh you don’t bother with Codes .
Just imagine the case load from a million football spectators each weekend?
You should never quote the law. You have no legal qualifications or experience and you invariably misinterpret it when you do.
Trespass orders are typically obtained against those who have ignored warnings. The sports organisations would only need consider it as a last option if he continued to attempt to attend events he is banned from. The easiest option is that they don't admit him, or have their security remove him if he is seen at the event. That doesn't require seeking a trespass order unless he shows a continuing defiance of the ban.
For someone who maintains he has no interest in seeing Salazar again you are doing everything in your power (wrong word - in your ineptitude) to argue his case for him against the ban.
Your repeated false comments about the alimentary system only reinforce that you really aren't intellectually equipped to participate in any of these discussions.
Why do you have to belittle people so frequently? Make your argument and lay off the personal taunting on intellectical issues. We get that you disagree with people who oppose Biden, Wokeism, and believe Salazar coaching was not sexual misconduct.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
I repeat that I have no interest in seeing AS again.
To say that I am being paid by AS’s team is as stupid as you getting you bladder within your digestive system that you kept repeating.
Have you not read the govt link on trespass?
Licensing laws are different from sports facilities constraints …. If any.
And as not barred from spectating anyway ……
A spectator is not a participant according to the Code…..oh you don’t bother with Codes .
Just imagine the case load from a million football spectators each weekend?
You should never quote the law. You have no legal qualifications or experience and you invariably misinterpret it when you do.
Trespass orders are typically obtained against those who have ignored warnings. The sports organisations would only need consider it as a last option if he continued to attempt to attend events he is banned from. The easiest option is that they don't admit him, or have their security remove him if he is seen at the event. That doesn't require seeking a trespass order unless he shows a continuing defiance of the ban.
For someone who maintains he has no interest in seeing Salazar again you are doing everything in your power (wrong word - in your ineptitude) to argue his case for him against the ban.
Your repeated false comments about the alimentary system only reinforce that you really aren't intellectually equipped to participate in any of these discussions.
So what did you think of the Uk government trespass link?
You persisted in saying that the digestive system included the bladder; Why make your self a big big liar..
I have made no case against the ban ; why lie ?
Only that it will be difficult to fully implement as you suggest and agree in your above post.
And he is not banned from being a spectator
51st time; association ban for his athletes ??
Racist terms repeated by you ??
Ihatejoe wrote:
Why do you have to belittle people so frequently? Make your argument and lay off the personal taunting on intellectical issues. We get that you disagree with people who oppose Biden, Wokeism, and believe Salazar coaching was not sexual misconduct.
Racial abuse and death threats as well as foul vile abuse.
Ihatejoe wrote:
Why do you have to belittle people so frequently? Make your argument and lay off the personal taunting on intellectical issues. We get that you disagree with people who oppose Biden, Wokeism, and believe Salazar coaching was not sexual misconduct.
I treat with respect those that deserve it. They usually show respect for others. But those who choose to espouse harmful prejudices and parade their ignorance don't - and many are happy to indulge in personal insults while dispensing their views. They get back what they dish out.
original liar soorer wrote:
Ihatejoe wrote:
Why do you have to belittle people so frequently? Make your argument and lay off the personal taunting on intellectical issues. We get that you disagree with people who oppose Biden, Wokeism, and believe Salazar coaching was not sexual misconduct.
Racial abuse and death threats as well as foul vile abuse.
Someone really needs to call your doctor urgently.
Ihatejoe wrote:
Why do you have to belittle people so frequently? Make your argument and lay off the personal taunting on intellectical issues. We get that you disagree with people who oppose Biden, Wokeism, and believe Salazar coaching was not sexual misconduct.
In further response to your comment, I might add that I don't consider the running threads are the problem here - although the endless justifications for doping cheats and slimeballs like Salazar can be pretty nauseating - it is the endless and toxic diversions into political and cultural (read, racial) issues that are dominated by a bigoted right-wing perspective. None of that is worthy of respect.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
Racial abuse and death threats as well as foul vile abuse.
Someone really needs to call your doctor urgently.
You said that you wanted to cleave my head apart.
Constant excrement based insults.
Unapologetic use of racial terms.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Ihatejoe wrote:
Why do you have to belittle people so frequently? Make your argument and lay off the personal taunting on intellectical issues. We get that you disagree with people who oppose Biden, Wokeism, and believe Salazar coaching was not sexual misconduct.
In further response to your comment, I might add that I don't consider the running threads are the problem here - although the endless justifications for doping cheats and slimeballs like Salazar can be pretty nauseating - it is the endless and toxic diversions into political and cultural (read, racial) issues that are dominated by a bigoted right-wing perspective. None of that is worthy of respect.
You are the one who uses racial terms and when made utterly clear of their nature to repeat them and won’t apologise.
You refuse to read, you make racist comments; seems you are the bigot.
I have provided no justification for doping cheats yet you insult me racially and threaten to kill me and cascade vile foul abuse.
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Someone really needs to call your doctor urgently.
You said that you wanted to cleave my head apart.
Constant excrement based insults.
Unapologetic use of racial terms.
You really are the liar that is your user name. Or incurably brain-damaged.
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
In further response to your comment, I might add that I don't consider the running threads are the problem here - although the endless justifications for doping cheats and slimeballs like Salazar can be pretty nauseating - it is the endless and toxic diversions into political and cultural (read, racial) issues that are dominated by a bigoted right-wing perspective. None of that is worthy of respect.
You are the one who uses racial terms and when made utterly clear of their nature to repeat them and won’t apologise.
You refuse to read, you make racist comments; seems you are the bigot.
I have provided no justification for doping cheats yet you insult me racially and threaten to kill me and cascade vile foul abuse.
I will call a spade a spade: you need help.
Armstronglivs wrote:
original liar soorer wrote:
You are the one who uses racial terms and when made utterly clear of their nature to repeat them and won’t apologise.
You refuse to read, you make racist comments; seems you are the bigot.
I have provided no justification for doping cheats yet you insult me racially and threaten to kill me and cascade vile foul abuse.
I will call a spade a spade: you need help.
Try that South of the Thames.
And the threat to kill me.
And the hundreds of vile foul mouth insults.
original liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I will call a spade a spade: you need help.
Try that South of the Thames.
And the threat to kill me.
And the hundreds of vile foul mouth insults.
Your inability to grasp the point is in spades.