I'm breaking my rule: Second Kip Litton Thread - Can someone please tell me what's up?

ignoring facts wrote:

Fantastic! So you have an email saying that he was DQ'd. You don't even have to produce it. Despite your ignorant claim, he is clearly in the results and was awarded prize money. So you are stupid, libelous and a liar. Game over.

No, I was pointing out the ease with which anyone can assert the existence of something on an internet forum. Why not forward this email to SOKLR?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL33MVI_A_0

2010 Go! St. Louis Marathon

Again, please forward any emails you have about Go! St. Louis whether in support or against the cheating accusations. I did not come across any email communication about St. Louis.

Someone forwarded me the Alan Whitehead email about the Solstice 10K. It's been posted on my blog for awhile. Here's that one:

from

http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2011/10/2009-northville-mi-solstice-run-10k.html

"---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Alan Whitehead

Date: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Subject: 2009 Solstice Run 10K - Finish Results for Kip Litton

To:

befreetoo@hotmail.com

Kip,

I am the Race Director for the Solstice Run in Northville, MI and many of my fellow running and community friends have brought to my attention the results of the 2009 Solstice Run 10K race event where you were credited with a finish time of 37:14.

I have evidence with videos and pictures taken at various stages of our 2009 10K race on the course and it is apparent you did not run the entire 10K course in the chip time recorded.

One example is a picture of yourself finishing:http://www.runmichigan.com/photogallery/09/solstice10k_062709me_window.php?31

We took note and recognized your tee shirt was dry on such a tough course & high temperature day. You & I know you easily shortcut the course.

My responsibility to the Solstice Run event is to conduct an organized, fair and professional race event with accurate finisher results. Therefore with the evidence in hand can you explain your appearance & lack of previous race times that would support such a solid 6 minute pace on our hilly 10K race event in Northville?

I am prepared to officially "Disqualify" your finish time in 2009 at the Solstice Run dependant on your response and explanation to the evidence received. Please respond by this Sunday, February 6th with your comments and feedback or I will need to make a decision then to process a Disqualification on your entry and finish-time in our 2009 Solstice Run 10K race.

Regards,

Alan Whitehead

Race Director

Solstice Run"

Totally cracking up...I'm a USATF official getting ready to go work my first indoor meet of the season. Was looking over the heat sheets and noticed a familiar name entered in the 5k...familiar since I read the message boards anyway:

http://athletics.uindy.edu/documents/2013/12/6/AlumniOpenMeetProgram.pdf?id=2379

Of course his team name tips me off that he is unlikely going to be there...but I'll keep a close eye on him if he does show up. :)

This post is proof positive that he cheated and no one with even one brain cell in their head could deny it. My question is, why didn't this Singer guy ask him a few questions like this post and lay the picture out in front of him, AFTER he explains why he was disqualified? I would have.

smell the beans pal wrote:

He wanted to brag about his accomplishments

More absurd jibberish. Those he would talk to would all be friends or family.

1) They already know that unlike a lot of those here, he does not obsess or brag about running, or anything else for that matter.

2) They have already known about for years, and seen in person his accomplished running abilities.

Wake up.

Come on dude, it's someone being a goofball and entering his name. He's not running there, no way Jose'.

Singer didn't have much chance to even get Kip in the same room. Kip avoided Singer and even threatened to call the Clarkston police on him for trespassing when Singer showed up at the dental office the day after 2012 Boston Marathon. Yet we have these anonymous Kip-supporting posters here asking why Singer didn't talk enough to Kip's "friends." Doesn't MaKe much sense.

IndyGuy wrote:

Totally cracking up...I'm a USATF official getting ready to go work my first indoor meet of the season. Was looking over the heat sheets and noticed a familiar name entered in the 5k...familiar since I read the message boards anyway:

http://athletics.uindy.edu/documents/2013/12/6/AlumniOpenMeetProgram.pdf?id=2379

Of course his team name tips me off that he is unlikely going to be there...but I'll keep a close eye on him if he does show up. :)

LMAO

SOKLR wrote:

Singer didn't have much chance to even get Kip in the same room. Kip avoided Singer and even threatened to call the Clarkston police on him for trespassing when Singer showed up at the dental office the day after 2012 Boston Marathon. Yet we have these anonymous Kip-supporting posters here asking why Singer didn't talk enough to Kip's "friends." Doesn't MaKe much sense.

Yes it makes PERFECT sense. Use your brain. The second Singer would talk to any of Kip's friends or family, his fairy tale story would be absolutely DESTROYED, and Singer knows it because Kip requested he do so- There are a handful of us that have seen the emails.

journalism 101 wrote:

SOKLR wrote:

Singer didn't have much chance to even get Kip in the same room. Kip avoided Singer and even threatened to call the Clarkston police on him for trespassing when Singer showed up at the dental office the day after 2012 Boston Marathon. Yet we have these anonymous Kip-supporting posters here asking why Singer didn't talk enough to Kip's "friends." Doesn't MaKe much sense.

Yes it makes PERFECT sense. Use your brain. The second Singer would talk to any of Kip's friends or family, his fairy tale story would be absolutely DESTROYED, and Singer knows it because Kip requested he do so- There are a handful of us that have seen the emails.

Can you name any of the friends?

Are you the Bozo with no life that has spent endless hours stalking Kip and posting useless garbage? Much of it is inaccurate, like the fact that it was not the Clarkston Police, it was Davison.

If you're gonna devise an elaborate website with phony accusations, first get a life, then at least get the facts correct.

journalism 101 wrote:

Are you the Bozo with no life that has spent endless hours stalking Kip and posting useless garbage? Much of it is inaccurate, like the fact that it was not the Clarkston Police, it was Davison.

If you're gonna devise an elaborate website with phony accusations, first get a life, then at least get the facts correct.

Oops, you're right Kip. It was Davison. You would know better than me.

journalism 101 wrote:

If you're gonna devise an elaborate website with phony accusations, first get a life, then at least get the facts correct.

If you are going to devise an elaborate hoax Marathon in West Wyoming, first get a life, then at least use some credible fake runners.

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1) They already know that unlike a lot of those here, he does not obsess or brag about running, or anything else for that matter.

2) They have already known about for years, and seen in person his accomplished running abilities.

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1. you mean other than doing a newspaper article and creating a website called "worldrecordrun" that listed all of his races.

2. how do they know if he doesn't talk about it?

journalism 101 wrote:

Are you the Bozo with no life that has spent endless hours stalking Kip and posting useless garbage? Much of it is inaccurate, like the fact that it was not the Clarkston Police, it was Davison.

If you're gonna devise an elaborate website with phony accusations, first get a life, then at least get the facts correct.

Are you the Bozo who reads and responds to it all and even knows minute details such as exactly which police it was?

another average american wrote:

So if you believe he is pretty untrustworthy and are entirely unsure whether he's lying or not and there's a 5/10 chance of him telling the truth for each individual incidence, 10 odd incidents gives him a 0.01% (yes, that's 0.01 percent, not 1%!) chance of having all of these inconsistencies being explained by what he says.

Great post on the whole, triple-a, but I think you goofed the math here. (5/10) raised to the tenth power is 1/(2 exp 10) = 1/1,024 = 0.00098 = just under 0.001 = 0.1%. So you were off by an order of magnitude.

Nevertheless, I don't see this as boosting the likelihood of Kip playing it straight any more than I get a woody when I purchase 10 Powerball tickets instead of one.

I love this thread. I'm laughing my balls off and weeping at the same time.

journalism 101 wrote:

Are you the Bozo with no life that has spent endless hours stalking Kip and posting useless garbage? Much of it is inaccurate, like the fact that it was not the Clarkston Police, it was Davison.

If you're gonna devise an elaborate website with phony accusations, first get a life, then at least get the facts correct.

Is there anything else inaccurate?

This kip Litton is quite the character. Accusing New Yorker magazine of just making everything up and creating a fairy tale?

If he DNF at Liberty Univ in 5k, does that mean he ran and didn't finish?

http://www.liberty.edu/wwwadmin/globals/templates/1912/docs/stats/2013%20Liberty%20Kickoff%20Day%201%20Results.htm