Cam Hane's latest tirade on his IG stories. I run but I'm no runner. I don't care about your f*cking race. I get invited to come and run so I do. I give my best to everything I do. If I run well and that upsets you you're a b*tch. I don't care about your fake outrage. I'm a mountain bowhunter and that's the only reason I run.
How old is this guy? Sounds like the stuff that teenagers do.
Yes, I have been training seriously and regularly entering races for many years. Yes, I just ran an elite masters marathon time. But I am no runner.
Yes, I am friends with many prominent professional runners and running influencers and have featured Cole Hocker, Connor Mantz, Des Linden, Courtney Dauwalter, Shelby Houlihan, Matt Centrowitz, Ben Blankenship, Rachel Entrekin, Jeff Browning, and Alexi Pappas on my podcast within the last couple years. And I spoke at a "strength for runners seminar" with Nick Symmonds just last year. But I am no runner.
Yes, from the very start of my influencing career, I have built my personal brand (TM) around hunting AND running. Yes, I constantly post/talk about running to my large social media following. Yes, I sell running-related merch and posted an advertisement for my branded running shorts ("Built for those who don't believe in shortcuts") the day after my massive, late-in-life marathon PR. But I stand to gain nothing financially from running, as I am no runner.
Firstly, you are actually a nobody to people in the running world (where this discussion is0 , if not for your so called 'elite' marathon time. I have never , and would never have, heard about you otherwise. Still don't 'know' who you are. So don't be disrespectful and run a 2:39 fuelled up and call yourself a 'non runner'. If you weren't doing it for the accolades and fame you could simply do training runs for the outdated 'sport' you engage in. You have purposely done the marathon in order to broaden your base.
There should not even be pages on LRC to debate this. You should be banned from running events. For those that say, 'it is only a 2:39 runner', only a 59 yo, remember there are genuine, actual elite age group runners , that take age group champs and records seriously
Yes, I have been training seriously and regularly entering races for many years. Yes, I just ran an elite masters marathon time. But I am no runner.
Yes, I am friends with many prominent professional runners and running influencers and have featured Cole Hocker, Connor Mantz, Des Linden, Courtney Dauwalter, Shelby Houlihan, Matt Centrowitz, Ben Blankenship, Rachel Entrekin, Jeff Browning, and Alexi Pappas on my podcast within the last couple years. And I spoke at a "strength for runners seminar" with Nick Symmonds just last year. But I am no runner.
Yes, from the very start of my influencing career, I have built my personal brand (TM) around hunting AND running. Yes, I constantly post/talk about running to my large social media following. Yes, I sell running-related merch and posted an advertisement for my branded running shorts ("Built for those who don't believe in shortcuts") the day after my massive, late-in-life marathon PR. But I stand to gain nothing financially from running, as I am no runner.
Firstly, you are actually a nobody to people in the running world (where this discussion is0 , if not for your so called 'elite' marathon time. I have never , and would never have, heard about you otherwise. Still don't 'know' who you are. So don't be disrespectful and run a 2:39 fuelled up and call yourself a 'non runner'. If you weren't doing it for the accolades and fame you could simply do training runs for the outdated 'sport' you engage in. You have purposely done the marathon in order to broaden your base.
There should not even be pages on LRC to debate this. You should be banned from running events. For those that say, 'it is only a 2:39 runner', only a 59 yo, remember there are genuine, actual elite age group runners , that take age group champs and records seriously
The post you’re replying to is sarcasm. Cam is trying to downplay his association with running to make himself more of an outsider. A “rebel”.
Firstly, you are actually a nobody to people in the running world (where this discussion is0 , if not for your so called 'elite' marathon time. I have never , and would never have, heard about you otherwise. Still don't 'know' who you are. So don't be disrespectful and run a 2:39 fuelled up and call yourself a 'non runner'. If you weren't doing it for the accolades and fame you could simply do training runs for the outdated 'sport' you engage in. You have purposely done the marathon in order to broaden your base.
There should not even be pages on LRC to debate this. You should be banned from running events. For those that say, 'it is only a 2:39 runner', only a 59 yo, remember there are genuine, actual elite age group runners , that take age group champs and records seriously
The post you’re replying to is sarcasm. Cam is trying to downplay his association with running to make himself more of an outsider. A “rebel”.
Except he is not an outsider. Clear intent to perform at an elite level (for a 58 yo) in order to achieve and maintain 'running credibility'. Downplaying the drugs maybe
Yes, I have been training seriously and regularly entering races for many years. Yes, I just ran an elite masters marathon time. But I am no runner.
Yes, I am friends with many prominent professional runners and running influencers and have featured Cole Hocker, Connor Mantz, Des Linden, Courtney Dauwalter, Shelby Houlihan, Matt Centrowitz, Ben Blankenship, Rachel Entrekin, Jeff Browning, and Alexi Pappas on my podcast within the last couple years. And I spoke at a "strength for runners seminar" with Nick Symmonds just last year. But I am no runner.
Yes, from the very start of my influencing career, I have built my personal brand (TM) around hunting AND running. Yes, I constantly post/talk about running to my large social media following. Yes, I sell running-related merch and posted an advertisement for my branded running shorts ("Built for those who don't believe in shortcuts") the day after my massive, late-in-life marathon PR. But I stand to gain nothing financially from running, as I am no runner.
Firstly, you are actually a nobody to people in the running world (where this discussion is0 , if not for your so called 'elite' marathon time. I have never , and would never have, heard about you otherwise. Still don't 'know' who you are. So don't be disrespectful and run a 2:39 fuelled up and call yourself a 'non runner'. If you weren't doing it for the accolades and fame you could simply do training runs for the outdated 'sport' you engage in. You have purposely done the marathon in order to broaden your base.
There should not even be pages on LRC to debate this. You should be banned from running events. For those that say, 'it is only a 2:39 runner', only a 59 yo, remember there are genuine, actual elite age group runners , that take age group champs and records seriously
Firstly, you are actually a nobody to people in the running world (where this discussion is0 , if not for your so called 'elite' marathon time. I have never , and would never have, heard about you otherwise. Still don't 'know' who you are. So don't be disrespectful and run a 2:39 fuelled up and call yourself a 'non runner'. If you weren't doing it for the accolades and fame you could simply do training runs for the outdated 'sport' you engage in. You have purposely done the marathon in order to broaden your base.
There should not even be pages on LRC to debate this. You should be banned from running events. For those that say, 'it is only a 2:39 runner', only a 59 yo, remember there are genuine, actual elite age group runners , that take age group champs and records seriously
Cam Hane's latest tirade on his IG stories. I run but I'm no runner. I don't care about your f*cking race. I get invited to come and run so I do. I give my best to everything I do. If I run well and that upsets you you're a b*tch. I don't care about your fake outrage. I'm a mountain bowhunter and that's the only reason I run.
How old is this guy? Sounds like the stuff that teenagers do.
I don’t care about your stupid race! I’m just going to cry and post about it non stop but I definitely don’t care! I’m a bow hunter!!!
Cam Hane's latest tirade on his IG stories. I run but I'm no runner. I don't care about your f*cking race. I get invited to come and run so I do. I give my best to everything I do. If I run well and that upsets you you're a b*tch. I don't care about your fake outrage. I'm a mountain bowhunter and that's the only reason I run.
How old is this guy? Sounds like the stuff that teenagers do.
This reads exactly like a 13 year old girls MSN status
Cam’s podcast is wild. He claims that all the skinny nerd runners are pissed that the cool fit bros that used to bully them are now being celebrated for running and also they are taking all of their girlz… so much wisdom from this old man
Joke is on him. Us runners don't have girls to lose.
I think Cam is hoping the typically fast news cycle and short attention spans will cause this issue to be forgotten in a few weeks' time. And it may be a case of "ultra races need him more than he needs them" (in his mind, as he could leave ultras behind and still succeed in just bowhunting). He's counting on Father Time to do his thing and have time win out...
It's insanely pathetic the various people supporting or taking a lukewarm stance on this. It's similar to when Shelby got popped, you had people like Kara Goucher - who normally can't stop talking about doping and how awful it is - suddenly go mum. "It's complicated" they say.
The reality is, this dude has a big devoted audience. That insulates him a bit from this being a rational discussion. So it goes. Now all these people want to stay on his good side.
I went and listened to his latest podcast and made it about 3 minutes. Who listens to this?
PS Cam when you read this and start crying about it - I'm not liberal, not vegan, and don't even particularly like Sage.
Another advantage is his fanbase is bigger than Sage's, and possibly more influential in the instagram space. He is counting on power (big group), speed (fast news cycle) and legacy (his solid long-standing rep as a bowman) to carry him to the win.
Two race directors have already stood firm behind him. Aravapia and Pusey’s company already have bent the knee to stay on hoa good side. Destination probably would be too when she’s not shilling bitcoin. Money over integrity with the biggest trial race company in the states.
Another advantage is his fanbase is bigger than Sage's, and possibly more influential in the instagram space. He is counting on power (big group), speed (fast news cycle) and legacy (his solid long-standing rep as a bowman) to carry him to the win.
The damage is done though. The chances of him facing any real consequences from any organization was slim to none, but he's not going to be able to poke his head out again without this discourse being brought right back up.
Two race directors have already stood firm behind him. Aravapia and Pusey’s company already have bent the knee to stay on hoa good side. Destination probably would be too when she’s not shilling bitcoin. Money over integrity with the biggest trial race company in the states.
I guess Western States and UTMB don’t really care about doping either as Aravapia is a golden ticket race and feeder for both of these lottery races. will make it harder for clean athletes of all levels to get in. UTMB actually popped an amateur years back, but who knows where they are now with testing etc.
Two race directors have already stood firm behind him. Aravapia and Pusey’s company already have bent the knee to stay on hoa good side. Destination probably would be too when she’s not shilling bitcoin. Money over integrity with the biggest trial race company in the states.
I guess Western States and UTMB don’t really care about doping either as Aravapia is a golden ticket race and feeder for both of these lottery races. will make it harder for clean athletes of all levels to get in. UTMB actually popped an amateur years back, but who knows where they are now with testing etc.
Utmb tests their major podiums, these are usually a lot less competitive than goldenticketraces. As for Aravapia, I know they don't test black canyon. Not sure about other races. Utmb is a lot easier to get into than western states, so they don't need to be dragged in here, especially considering they are at least doing some tests.
I can’t help but wonder if Cam truly has a larger following. While I understand the appeal …quantity over quality, I seriously doubt many Masters runners are motivated by external validation. I believe the Cam, Ride-out, and Barre all know they’re charlatans deep down. If my marathon PR was achieved through deception, it would lose all its value. Perhaps they’re laughing all the way to the bank$$$, but I genuinely doubt that’s the case. Ultimately it all comes to light. Give it a year, five, or ten… Sage will be running, and he’ll likely still be his awesome quirky self. Those “clowns” will still be putting on a lot of “makeup” dancing on “poles” hoping people throw them dollars.
I guess Western States and UTMB don’t really care about doping either as Aravapia is a golden ticket race and feeder for both of these lottery races. will make it harder for clean athletes of all levels to get in. UTMB actually popped an amateur years back, but who knows where they are now with testing etc.
Utmb tests their major podiums, these are usually a lot less competitive than goldenticketraces. As for Aravapia, I know they don't test black canyon. Not sure about other races. Utmb is a lot easier to get into than western states, so they don't need to be dragged in here, especially considering they are at least doing some tests.
I’ve never heard that Aravapia has tested runners (but could be mistaken or not well informed), but they don’t have issues featuring a doper running their races. So there’s that.
Two race directors have already stood firm behind him. Aravapia and Pusey’s company already have bent the knee to stay on hoa good side. Destination probably would be too when she’s not shilling bitcoin. Money over integrity with the biggest trial race company in the states.
Interesting. I wonder how many other ultrarunners will back him (Rachel, Killian, etc. and others). Not judging or casting shade on any particular individual, more looking at data points.
Two race directors have already stood firm behind him. Aravapia and Pusey’s company already have bent the knee to stay on hoa good side. Destination probably would be too when she’s not shilling bitcoin. Money over integrity with the biggest trial race company in the states.
HOA?
And who is "she" w/regard to bitcoin?
Not sarcastic, I'm not sure what race you are referring to here, unless you specifically meant Destination Trail.
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