This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
The great majority in most countries is, fortunately, vaccinated. So even though they suffer severe covid at much lower *rates* than the unvaccinated, the vacced can outnumber the unvacced among covid-mortalities. This should not be difficult to understand
You forget that antivaxxers take pride in trying their best not to understand elementary school level math.
That's it ? You have nothing better to offer ? Vax mob mafia reduced to lame trolls. Sad, but expected.
We're not your enemy. We tried to warn you. We jumped up and down with a bullhorn and shouted at you to do your own research. But you chose to listen to the "media." Now you have calamari-like clots in your veins and have a likely shortened lifespan as a result of this experimental mRNA gene therapy. God bless.
Ana Navarro is opening up about her experience with Covid as she reveals she tested positive for the virus ahead of Thanksgiving Day. The View cohost was absent from the ABC talk show starting Mond…
We're not your enemy. We tried to warn you. We jumped up and down with a bullhorn and shouted at you to do your own research. But you chose to listen to the "media." Now you have calamari-like clots in your veins and have a likely shortened lifespan as a result of this experimental mRNA gene therapy. God bless.
Lol "dO yOuR oWn rEsEaRcH". That's antivaxxer speak for "let me find the worst possible sources that just happen to confirm my insane beliefs"
You forget that antivaxxers take pride in trying their best not to understand elementary school level math.
That's it ? You have nothing better to offer ? Vax mob mafia reduced to lame trolls. Sad, but expected.
Of course not. Antivaxxers don't deserve anything better than trolling in response. No sane person actually believes antivaxxers are arguing in good faith, so it's funny you wouldn't expect to get trolled when you keep saying the same hilariously wrong or asinine things over and over lmao
Morans going to Moran: why is she "quarantining," except as a self-dramatic, insipid publicity stunt? OMG, is she "symptomatic"?
Is someone at "risk" going to catch a "case"? Will it be a "breakthrough case," AKA "a Wolensky"?
Oh wait, I forgot! Maybe she was trying to "flatten the curb" for everyone, or, even better, better: REVERSE THE CURB (#Crub), so we don't "crash the system," again.
We're not your enemy. We tried to warn you. We jumped up and down with a bullhorn and shouted at you to do your own research. But you chose to listen to the "media." Now you have calamari-like clots in your veins and have a likely shortened lifespan as a result of this experimental mRNA gene therapy. God bless.
Lol "dO yOuR oWn rEsEaRcH". That's antivaxxer speak for "let me find the worst possible sources that just happen to confirm my insane beliefs"
Mock me, hate me all you want. My intent was not to anger or insult you. But please, I beg you, go see a cardiologist and get a simple examination.
Lol "dO yOuR oWn rEsEaRcH". That's antivaxxer speak for "let me find the worst possible sources that just happen to confirm my insane beliefs"
Mock me, hate me all you want. My intent was not to anger or insult you. But please, I beg you, go see a cardiologist and get a simple examination.
I might have mocked you, but I don't hold ill will to you either or feel any anger by what you said. I just think it's ridiculous and not based in reality whatsoever. Antivaxxers love to argue anecdotally, but by that same token, everyone I've known who has been vaccinated is in perfect health and some of them have had multiple exposures to covid without infection. (and I know a few people who refused to get vaccinated that got absolutely wrecked by covid.)
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE "AUTUMN SURGE"? Check the wastewater! A "variant storm" is on the "rampage" in Europe!
Maybe everyone got boosted? Oh wait: almost NOBODY got boosted, kids included, & very few of our babies and toddlers have gotten your no-better-than-a-placebo "vaccine"...
When the Philadelphia Inquirer-- one of the most 'rona hysterical of all major papers-- has to admit this, you know the Vax Mob is losing.
Makes no sense in light of what we haave learned about the jab these past nearly 2 years.
Nobody who did not get jabb'ed is sorry they didn't and many who did say no more.
Why did you not get jabb'ed?
Nobody? sure if you stick to tik tok or don't are about honesty. meanwhile, in the real world hundreds of thousands people who didn't get jabbed, got a severe case or worse (recanted their anti-vax on their death bed) are very sorry. Additionally, they are the ones to blame for variants because they let the virus live.
Stunning lack of virology knowledge or intellectual curiosity. The most likely source of variants, as it has been from the beginning, are immunosuppressed, “vaccinated” patients who cannot fully suppress the virus, just kind of mount a response. It’s questionable whether we should’ve ever been “vaccinating” into a mass pandemic in the first place, particularly a pandemic that was primarily only a serious concern in the obese and/or elderly. Especially when we had therapeutics.
Morans going to Moran: why is she "quarantining," except as a self-dramatic, insipid publicity stunt? OMG, is she "symptomatic"?
Is someone at "risk" going to catch a "case"? Will it be a "breakthrough case," AKA "a Wolensky"?
Oh wait, I forgot! Maybe she was trying to "flatten the curb" for everyone, or, even better, better: REVERSE THE CURB (#Crub), so we don't "crash the system," again.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE "AUTUMN SURGE"? Check the wastewater! A "variant storm" is on the "rampage" in Europe!
Maybe everyone got boosted? Oh wait: almost NOBODY got boosted, kids included, & very few of our babies and toddlers have gotten your no-better-than-a-placebo "vaccine"...
When the Philadelphia Inquirer-- one of the most 'rona hysterical of all major papers-- has to admit this, you know the Vax Mob is losing.
Nobody? sure if you stick to tik tok or don't are about honesty. meanwhile, in the real world hundreds of thousands people who didn't get jabbed, got a severe case or worse (recanted their anti-vax on their death bed) are very sorry. Additionally, they are the ones to blame for variants because they let the virus live.
Stunning lack of virology knowledge or intellectual curiosity. The most likely source of variants, as it has been from the beginning, are immunosuppressed, “vaccinated” patients who cannot fully suppress the virus, just kind of mount a response. It’s questionable whether we should’ve ever been “vaccinating” into a mass pandemic in the first place, particularly a pandemic that was primarily only a serious concern in the obese and/or elderly. Especially when we had therapeutics.
Stunning lack of virology knowledge or intellectual curiosity. The most likely source of variants, as it has been from the beginning, are immunosuppressed, “vaccinated” patients who cannot fully suppress the virus, just kind of mount a response. It’s questionable whether we should’ve ever been “vaccinating” into a mass pandemic in the first place, particularly a pandemic that was primarily only a serious concern in the obese and/or elderly. Especially when we had therapeutics.
The great majority in most countries is, fortunately, vaccinated. So even though they suffer severe covid at much lower *rates* than the unvaccinated, the vacced can outnumber the unvacced among covid-mortalities. This should not be difficult to understand
It's been explained to them many, many times. They're either incapable of understanding base rate fallacy, or they actively reject any evidence that runs counter to their views. Show them a massive, randomized scientific trial, and they'll latch onto conspiracy theories rather than take it seriously. Show them a YouTube rant from a fringe conspiracy theorist, and it's "CHECKMATE, CDC!!!"
The great majority in most countries is, fortunately, vaccinated. So even though they suffer severe covid at much lower *rates* than the unvaccinated, the vacced can outnumber the unvacced among covid-mortalities. This should not be difficult to understand
It's been explained to them many, many times. They're either incapable of understanding base rate fallacy, or they actively reject any evidence that runs counter to their views. Show them a massive, randomized scientific trial, and they'll latch onto conspiracy theories rather than take it seriously. Show them a YouTube rant from a fringe conspiracy theorist, and it's "CHECKMATE, CDC!!!"
LOL- oh no, bAtHe wAtE FaWwAtHy guy is back!!
NEVER forget who paid for the propaganda we were fed, who stood to gain the most from it, who requested 70 years of keeping the supposed test data sealed, and who was granted immunity from any lawsuits by our corrupt CDC…..
NEVER forget who paid for the propaganda we were fed, who stood to gain the most from it, who requested 70 years of keeping the supposed test data sealed, and who was granted immunity from any lawsuits by our corrupt CDC…..
For drugmaker Pfizer, a fortune amassed in the COVID pandemic is now paving the path to pharma nirvana: a weight loss pill worth billions.
The company has reaped nearly $100 billion from selling COVID-19 vaccines and treatments to U.S. taxpayers and foreign governments. With that windfall, it plans to get richer, sinking the cash into developing and marketing potential blockbusters for conditions like migraines, ulcerative colitis, prostate cancer, sickle cell disease, and obesity.
It just announced it will triple or even quadruple the price of its COVID vaccine once it goes on the commercial market next year. Meanwhile, the company is inundating doctors and pharmacists—and consumers—with advertising touting its COVID drug Paxlovid.
“Pfizer is a remarkable marketing machine. They have an incredible ability to make the most of molecules and get them adopted,” said Timothy Calkins, a professor of marketing at Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management.
While sales of its COVID vaccines are falling, Pfizer plans to triple the price of the shots and use its bonanza from government contracts to buy and develop new blockbusters.
The great majority in most countries is, fortunately, vaccinated. So even though they suffer severe covid at much lower *rates* than the unvaccinated, the vacced can outnumber the unvacced among covid-mortalities. This should not be difficult to understand
It's been explained to them many, many times. They're either incapable of understanding base rate fallacy, or they actively reject any evidence that runs counter to their views. Show them a massive, randomized scientific trial, and they'll latch onto conspiracy theories rather than take it seriously. Show them a YouTube rant from a fringe conspiracy theorist, and it's "CHECKMATE, CDC!!!"
I still remember when Covid was just in its infancy and the experts foretold well in advance that there would come a time when most everyone that would test positive would be vaccinated. Again, it is basic math and logic. And of course vaccines are not cures of a virus and never claim to be. They are simply tools to make you ready to get the virus and be able to fight it off properly so you don't have a bad outcome. This is basic stuff known for many, many decades.
Yet here we are 3 years later and Antivaxxers still don't get these two simple truths. All of their crazy proof that they post and that they think are gotachas are just a failure of understanding these two truths.
I also remember the experts (either Fauci or Shane Crotty) saying that ever single virus is different not one is the same as another and nobody knows for sure how this one will behave. (look it up. It is true!) So time would be needed to see how Covid virus would react to vaccines etc.
So here we are 3 years later and antivaxxers are pointing to this as proof that they were right and infectious disease experts were wrong.
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