Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Biden won New Jersey in 2020 by 800,000 votes.

Trump rally speeches lately…

Ask not what I could do for our country, just listen to me lie incessantly and drone on and on about how unfairly I feel I'm being treated by evil judges, prosecutors and biased jurors and grand jurors because that's what really matters to you, the American voter.

Nobody seriously thinks New Jersey is in play...but, nobody thought Georgia or Arizona were in play in 2020. I'm sure I'll be proven wrong, and I'm ready for it.

Now then, Trump has to pick his VP eventually. He looks like he's going to wait until the last minute...and I really hope he picks Tulsi Gabbard. She's not too Trumpy, has stood up to her own party (take note: President Biden, that is how it is done), and isn't a Ukraine hawk like Nikki Haley. I could see Hawaii's 4 electoral college votes making the difference in November.

But mostly, I'm befuddled by how the race seems to he a coin flip right now. Biden has way too much going against him: low approval numbers, the inability to draw crowds like his opponent, and hard data (poor jobs numbers, persistent inflation) that really should make him Jimmy Carter 2.0, without the same conviction and willingness to tell the US population that they are spoiled brats. A toaster with an "R" on it should be wiping the floor in polls against Biden, but Trump is unlikable to too many who will just never support him. It's going to be interesting...until it isn't and half of America whines and moans about how their preferred candidate didn't win.

Biden or Trump need 270 electoral votes to win. If neither reach that number due to an RFK Jr spoiler, then the House of Representatives decides. In this scenario, each state plus DC gets one vote, decided by the representatives of that state for a total of 51 votes. (I’m not sure if territories vote). This gives Hawaii equal voting power as California.

Trump led in PA by over 700,000 votes in 2020 but somehow lost

Zero chance RFK wins a single electoral vote.

You are a moron.

Just a friendly reminder

Very simple to understand for anyone outside of M@ga. The PA GOP lawmakers adamantly refused to any count mail in ballots before the polling places closed. Despite widespread support and logic for doing so. Also, we were in the middle of a pandemic where Democrats encouraged mail in voting while Trump told his base that mail in voting was a scam and they should vote in person. (The GOP has rallied around mail in voting for years before 2020 they always led the mail in ballots with the military and rich old people). It was later learned that his little scam to claim victory before the votes were counted and later cry foul against mail in ballots was hatched by Roger Stone in the summer of 202 to provide a reason to cry that the election was stolen.

Everybody saw this was the plan 1.5 months in advance. It even had a term "red mirage".

It was predicted and written about. Yet today, Trumpers still try to peddle this BS here.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but RFK Jr is not on pace to win a single state. I get your larger point and agree...the winner is probably going to take the electoral college by the skin of his teeth. Biden should win the popular vote walking away, but there's plenty of time left and the possibility that 2024 becomes a referendum on his record (which, I want to underscore, most Americans disapprove of) is always there.

You shiiittt for brain Republicans still haven’t learned that crowd size at rallies means nothing. Smh

Yes. The narrative was clearly written in advance. It was not true as Trump did tell his voters to use mail in voting. And why would early mail in votes be counted late?

The Nazi Nuremberg rallies sure meant something, yes?

Two small states are not winner take all...Maine and Nebraska. Only 9 electoral votes between them so no 3rd party candidate really has a chance. No states should be winner take all. But that would be a problem for the uniparty

Sure it does. Massive enthusiatic crowds for one candidate vs. non-existent crowds for the other

100,000 people Chief, just to hear a real leader speak.

you do realize the Palestinians and Israelis were basically breaking bread under MA6A leadership, yes?

You are easily duped. Right wingers are claiming that crowd in Jersey was 80K. An overhead Air camera view shows about 8,000 and a good portion left way early because Trump was rambling again like an incoherent DRUNK Uncle during Festivus.

Crowd size has always been part of Trump's big con. Remember the inauguration? Remember the boat parades?

Yesterday I saw two Trump flag boats on the intercoastal. And no Biden flags. What does this mean? It means the majority of the country is not in an insane cult.

Mail in votes are counted after day-of-election votes. I have no idea why...that's just the way it is. Actually, I have an inkling: it they were counted first, the results would likely be leaked, which could either discourage day-of voting or encourage fraud.

You can Trump an idiot all you want for discouraging mail-in voting, but you should at least mention the context so that his suggestion makes sense: he felt mail-in voting wasn't secure and that votes cast for him would be tossed. That may have actually happened. Guess what? If it did, it jibes with the democrats rebuttal to the claim that 2020 was plagued with fraud because "there is no credible evidence of fraud." A destroyed ballot is destroyed, and hence isn't evidence.

As far as Pennsylvania goes, there was some scandal and it was litigated in courts. Dem counties received instructions that they could reach out to voters who has incomplete ballots and complete information that would spoiled the ballots otherwise. Republican counties did *not* receive these instructions. The case rose to the level of the Supreme Court, where the argument used was equal protection (equal application of the law guaranteed by the Constitution) had been violated. Ironically, the case was dismissed because the GOP waited too long to file it:

npr.org

Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Reverse Pennsylvania Election Results

The lawsuit argued a 2019 state law authorizing universal mail-in voting was unconstitutional and that all ballots cast by mail in the general election in Pennsylvania should be thrown out.

Link:www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944230517/supre...

So where does that leave us for 2024? Well, Dems are fantastic at ballot harvesting and use it everywhere it is legal to get votes from those who don't want to go to polling places to cast their vote. Republicans need to catch up. Expect a knock-down, drag-out fight over mail-in voting (justified in 2020 due to Covid, to be argued over endlessly in 2024 in the absence of a pandemic).

Still think Biden gets re-elected. But of interest, the the only previous President to serve non-consecutive terms (Grover Cleveland) got more votes in the election he lost than the first one he won. Trump joined him in that category in 2020.

It is almost laughable that we would even try to have a rational discussion of free and fair elections with Donald J Trump as one of the candidates. Why?

Because he:
-refused to accept the vote,

-still refuses to accept the vote

-refused to attend the winner's inauguration
-pressured only swing states he lost to recount the results
-pressured only swing states he lost to change the results
-pressured Electors in swing states he lost to falsely certify results

-attempt to illegally seize voting machine data

-pressure the VP to falsely certify results
-incited an insurrection to prevent certification of the results

-lambasted his own AG and anyone else that said there was no fraud

Oooooh, you used the word, "narrative". Now, if only you'd add in a "sheeple" or two we would know that we should take your post very seriously.