I made no reference to what these freedoms are in Russia, but what they ought to be here.
The precipitating message was not speaking to my own situation, but in response to a post seemingly calling for political round-up and prosecution of "Russian Trolls".
Hereabouts, that definition encompasses anyone expressing views not fully supportive of Ukraine narrative.
Fortunately, nobody’s right to free speech and nobody’s civil liberties have been infringed in the US due to Russia’s invasion, so you have nothing to worry about. Of course, plenty of Russian trolls (like yourself) have tried to distort the truth - but that’s why there are many people here to correct your posts. You’re welcome.
On the other hand, plenty of Russians’ rights have been curtailed. You should be concerned for them. Of course, that does put you in an awkward spot - supporting Russia’s invasion while calling out Russia for being a cesspool of human rights violations.
p.s. I’m not saying you’re a Russian troll for “expressing views not fully supportive of Ukraine narrative”, but for expressing counterfactual views supporting Russia, just like your “not pal” Carmine who insists no Russia generals have been killed in Ukraine.
Kindly clarify whether extra-judicial murders, civilian assassinations, is a bad thing or good thing?
Anything that hinders Russia’s extra-judicial invasion and annexation of Ukraine is a good thing. Full stop.
Thanks for clarifying your support for assassination of civilians. And spouses.
More "Russian Propaganda" :
24 August - Polygraf.info (Voice of America subsidiary)
Claims of Ukraine shelling of NP plant "patently bogus".
"Voice of America's Georgian news service published an extensive interview with an engineer from the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant. He confirmed that Russian forces staged artillery and other military equipment in and around the site. He said Russian forces bombed areas near the plant in an apparent effort to cast the Ukraine military as the attacker...
Ukraine denies shelling the plant and says Russia is doing so."
29 August - US Department of Defence Briefing
"we know that there are airstrikes and artillery bombardment that have gone on around the nuclear power plant... we also know that the Russians have fired in the vicinity of the plant...
I don't want to say that the Ukrainians haven't fired in that vicinity either because I think there's probably a likelihood that they have.."
Russia has reportedly mined the plant, stationed troops there, fired artillery from the site, stored ammunition there and parked military vehicles next to reactor buildings.
Anything that hinders Russia’s extra-judicial invasion and annexation of Ukraine is a good thing. Full stop.
Is legal, or legitimate invasion even possible? Why is this one any worse than any one before it? Invaded are to chose the means of defense, but sacrificing own civilians and terrorising civilians on invader's side is rather a lame way, as well as it is a war crime.
Anything that hinders Russia’s extra-judicial invasion and annexation of Ukraine is a good thing. Full stop.
Thanks for clarifying your support for assassination of civilians. And spouses.
Thanks for clarifying that you’re more concerned about a pro-Russian terrorist than the tens of thousands of people of Kherson that he’s helping to terrorize.
You're calling out one guy, who doesn't appear to have even posted in this thread before, for one sentence, that may or may not even be wrong. That's called strawman.
You cite two sources, the US Pentagon and the Guardian, that I'm willing to bet money that you previously said were sources of propaganda and not credible. That's called hypocrisy.
You then change topics with a vague reference to a murder of a civilian in Kherson. If you were referring to Oleksiy Kovalev, from what I'm reading (I had to go find it since you didn't cite anything for some reason), there is much more to him than merely your label as a civilian grain merchant. You're aware of your omissions regarding Kovalev. That's called being misleading.
Yet again, your make-believe schtick as some neutral observer appears to be only fooling yourself.
Kindly clarify whether extra-judicial murders, civilian assassinations, is a bad thing or good thing?
If you are referring to Oleksiy Kovalev, as you well know, he was not just a "grain merchant" as you suggested. He was a former Ukrainian politician who accepted a position as a Russian-appointed deputy in Kherson and chose to collaborate with the Russian military occupation. In his Russian-appointed position, he was making $$$$$$ during wartime by exporting (i.e., stealing and looting) Ukrainian grain to Russia. In context, calling him a civilian is stretching things a lot.
I can't find anything saying who killed Kovalev. It could have been the Ukrainian military, but it could also have been a former neighbor, friend or colleague disgusted by his decision to become a traitor to his country and collaborate with the invading killers. That would not be an "civilian assassination" in the sense you are implying.
If you are against extra-judicial murders, you would be against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, since every single death/murder caused by Russian troops in Ukraine is extra-judicial.
Thanks for clarifying your support for assassination of civilians. And spouses.
Thanks for clarifying that you’re more concerned about a pro-Russian terrorist than the tens of thousands of people of Kherson that he’s helping to terrorize.
Kovalyov served as Deputy Chairman for Agriculture for the Kherson region.
How does being a civilian public official administering a vital food commodity qualify as a "terrorist" helping to "terrorize" "tens of thousands of people"?
A hit squad invaded his home. He had the back of his head blown off execution-style with a pump-action shotgun.
His wife, blameless by any standard, was murdered by having her throat slit.
We might expect this barbarism from ISIS, not Ukraine.
Defending these acts indicates a broken moral compass.
One cannot excuse any manner of wrongful act by wrapping it up as "defence of country".
Thanks for clarifying that you’re more concerned about a pro-Russian terrorist than the tens of thousands of people of Kherson that he’s helping to terrorize.
Kovalyov served as Deputy Chairman for Agriculture for the Kherson region.
How does being a civilian public official administering a vital food commodity qualify as a "terrorist" helping to "terrorize" "tens of thousands of people"?
A hit squad invaded his home. He had the back of his head blown off execution-style with a pump-action shotgun.
His wife, blameless by any standard, was murdered by having her throat slit.
We might expect this barbarism from ISIS, not Ukraine.
Defending these acts indicates a broken moral compass.
One cannot excuse any manner of wrongful act by wrapping it up as "defence of country".
Your concern for a Nazi terrorist is touching. You left out that he was the RUSSIAN APPOINTED deputy chairman for agriculture of the ILLEGITIMATE RUSSIAN OCCUPATION government. Acting as if he was a poor innocent victim, while showing no concern for the people who were suffering under the occupation government that he was a member of shows a broken moral compass. I don’t really feel sorry for people that break into somebody’s home, steal their belongings, and then get shot. Most people call that self defense.
"In the past 24 hours, in their effective operations the Russian forces eliminated 48 tanks, 46 infantry fighting vehicles, 37 other combat armored vehicles, 8 pickup vehicles with large-caliber machine-guns and over 1,200 Uk...
Haha. Where’s Carmine to call out propaganda? The more the Kremlin tries to spin this as a Ukrainian failure the more likely Russia is getting pummeled.
Didn’t they recently claim that Russia had destroyed 8,000 HIMARs in Ukraine, along with 91,000 Ukrainian aircraft, and 42 million Ukrainian soldiers?
Oh ok. Give me the source with official numbers then :) I know for fact it ended with Ukrainian fiasko, so makes me curious, how bad was it.
You don’t know jack sh*t, which is why you posted an article from tass that says that Ukraine has lost more than 4,000 tanks so far. Even Ernest can tell that’s propaganda only fit for morons. But, if the Kremlin is trying this hard to lie to Russians, you know it was a complete disaster for Russia.
Didn’t they recently claim that Russia had destroyed 8,000 HIMARs in Ukraine, along with 91,000 Ukrainian aircraft, and 42 million Ukrainian soldiers?
Arguing by making stuff up.
All you got
Shouldn’t you be shouting “propaganda!” in response to the tass article? Or is it only propaganda if it says something negative about Russia? Your hypocrisy is nauseating.
Shouldn’t you be shouting “propaganda!” in response to the tass article? Or is it only propaganda if it says something negative about Russia? Your hypocrisy is nauseating.
Its propaganda when its lies used to mislead the public.
We, or course, have no idea if this is a lie. You assume it is because your mind is occupied territory
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